Originally posted by Golgo13which question? Tactics? Cap is generally viewed as one of the best leaders in not just Marvel but all comics because of his tactical mind.
Based on what?
Why Batman's various other fields of intelligence aren't really meaningful in a 1v1 fight? I figured it was self explanatory, unless you think his detective skills will help him dodge a repulsar blast...
Originally posted by pym-ftw
which question? Tactics? Cap is generally viewed as one of the best leaders in not just Marvel but all comics because of his tactical mind.Why Batman's various other fields of intelligence aren't really meaningful in a 1v1 fight? I figured it was self explanatory, unless you think his detective skills will help him dodge a repulsar blast...
Bruce has a great strategic mind as well. As seen battling some of the most intelligent beings on the planet like Lex, Riddler, Joker, etc... Each has their own strengths and weaknesses.
Originally posted by Golgo13
Bruce has a great strategic mind as well. As seen battling some of the most intelligent beings on the planet like Lex, Riddler, Joker, etc... Each has their own strengths and weaknesses.
Bruce has weaknesses as well though. Like I said tactics won't stop Tony from recording his fighting style, and calculating moves before they happen like he did with Captain America.
Originally posted by Stoic
Bruce has weaknesses as well though. Like I said tactics won't stop Tony from recording his fighting style, and calculating moves before they happen like he did with Captain America.
I did say EACH has their own weaknesses. However, in a prep battle, Bruce will come out on top due to being a superior tactician than Tony. This isn't a mecha battle only.
Originally posted by Golgo13
I did say EACH has their own weaknesses. However, in a prep battle, Bruce will come out on top due to being a superior tactician than Tony. This isn't a mecha battle only.
He has 10 hours, not 10 months though. Tony doesn't even have to allow Bruce the time to attempt to hack into his systems, which would be incredibly difficult, since Tony would be fully aware of what Bruce was doing. Tony could have every suit in his HQ attack Batman until the 10 hour prep time was over. This battle was tailored for Tony to win. He doesn't need to do anything other than record Batman's fighting style, and this is not something that he even needs the Bat PC to do. He can get that information from just about anywhere. Once he knows how Bruce fights, he would do exactly what he did to Captain America. Tactics in this case are over rated, because they are countered by superior tech, and a time limit.
Originally posted by Stoic
He has 10 hours, not 10 months though. Tony doesn't even have to allow Bruce the time to attempt to hack into his systems, which would be incredibly difficult, since Tony would be fully aware of what Bruce was doing. Tony could have every suit in his HQ attack Batman until the 10 hour prep time was over. This battle was tailored for Tony to win. He doesn't need to do anything other than record Batman's fighting style, and this is not something that he even needs the Bat PC to do. He can get that information from just about anywhere. Once he knows how Bruce fights, he would do exactly what he did to Captain America. Tactics in this case are over rated, because they are countered by superior tech, and a time limit.
I don't know, Bruce has access to a lot of uber tech now. Before Brother Eye became all crazy, he had access to that and New Gods tech. Can't get any better than that, TBH.
The one aspect of tactics I would give Cap an edge in over Batman is leading teams, and that's because it's never been Batmans bread and butter, he's always operated solo. I'd take Nightwing and Cyclops as a leader over Batman or Captain America any day.
In every other category of tactics and intelligence for that matter, Bats would leave Cap in a dust pretty by a large margin. Cap isn't even the best human in Marvel when to comes to one on one fights. Paladin and Punisher have both proven to be his superior.
As far as this fight goes, Pre 52 Tony would of had the edge in tech but that's pretty much gone now given all the ridiculous suits Bruce has made.
Return of Bruce Wayne showed that Batman can formulate a plan that spans the dawn of time to the end of the universe to stop Darkseid from f'ng up all of reality. His ability to predict every scenario and make a counter measure for it is why I'd give him the edge here since Tony isn't as impressive in that category.
Originally posted by Golgo13
I don't know, Bruce has access to a lot of uber tech now. Before Brother Eye became all crazy, he had access to that and New Gods tech. Can't get any better than that, TBH.
In this scenario, Bruce is in Tony's HQ, and Tony is in Bruce's HQ. It's like i said, this entire battle is tailor made for Stark to win. Putting Batman in Tony's HQ works out worse for him than it does if he were to just stay home, and work with his own tech.