Originally posted by Wei PhoenixI've literally gone over it like 5 times now, if we can't confirm she was, the burden of proving she wasn't isn't on me.
We told you that she tracked them in an alien base while phasewalking and that she didn't exit until they destroyed the final boss and Jack saw the visions. That is way longer than a few minutes. You have to prove that she can't go longer or has a set limit. The time it took to track them is way more than enough time to phasewalk, get behind Wesker and cap him in the back of the head, especially if he's Phaselocked, he's getting sniped.The only time Lilith needed Eridium was after expending so much power to kill all of those bandits that swarmed her hideout.
So let's go back to you saying that the Vault Hunters are more durable than the robots.
The robots are armored, they eat bullets for breakfast and are only weak to corrosive weaponry.
So if the VH's are more durable than that, what makes you think that a single shot from Wesker's pistol is going to do anything to them?
She also needed Eridium to teleport the pc after that part and again when she ported the city and it can be assumed she needed it for more as Roland was collecting it for her.
It can be explained that the bullets in the BL universe are weaker than real bullets, like if they lack hard metals which also explains why the robots suck so much.
Originally posted by EmptyHeartedFirst and foremost the RE protagonists aren't "normal" by any means. They are all low level superhumans
guys if normal people can take on the monster within REthen I fail to see how BL Characters can be the same
some BL has some OP
Secondly only the BSAA based games are you really fighting the monsters, the other games you just try and escape to survive. Thirdly the BSAA based games you have massive support in everything from Intel to air support.
Originally posted by pym-ftw
she needs Eridium Shards to amp up and they leave her worthless after a couple minutes or unless she is amped again. Also it's not standard gear for her so it's a non factor.The BSAA is a UN funded paramilitary unit with atleast 8 different headquarters around the world.
Most of the civilized world in RE has fallen to either a) the monsters or B) black market warlords who buy BOW in order to rule their countries. Hell the U.S. president died in RE6
She's even more powerful with Eridium, but she doesn't necessarily need it. She needs it if she wants to continuously spam her Siren abilities or for performing crazy feats like teleporting a whole city. I'd argue that it's more or less standard gear for her since she always seems to have some lying around.
Fair enough, but just because the BSAA has 8 HQs doesn't mean it has millions working for it.
Most of the civilized world? I really don't remember that. I can only remember isolated attacks against cities, towns, etc. Yeah, but the president died in a surprise bio-terrorist attack on a campus and its surrounding town. It's not like the terrorists successfully attacked the White House or something.
Originally posted by pym-ftw
I've literally gone over it like 5 times now, if we can't confirm she was, the burden of proving she wasn't isn't on me.She also needed Eridium to teleport the pc after that part and again when she ported the city and it can be assumed she needed it for more as Roland was collecting it for her.
It can be explained that the bullets in the BL universe are weaker than real bullets, like if they lack hard metals which also explains why the robots suck so much.
But we have proved that she was phasewalking. Jack couldn't track or see her. Only the aliens were aware of her presence. She physically moves around when she enters the phase. She exits the phase and punches Jack. Her exiting the phase is proof enough that she Phasewalked.
So we can assume that but not that Lilith phasewalked?
Please prove how BL metals are inferior to real life metals?
Originally posted by ArtificialGloryits not on her person though... Thus not standard gear
She's even more powerful with Eridium, but she doesn't necessarily need it. She needs it if she wants to continuously spam her Siren abilities or for performing crazy feats like teleporting a whole city. I'd argue that it's more or less standard gear for her since she always seems to have some lying around.Fair enough, but just because the BSAA has 8 HQs doesn't mean it has millions working for it.
Most of the civilized world? I really don't remember that. I can only remember isolated attacks against cities, towns, etc. Yeah, but the president died in a surprise bio-terrorist attack on a campus and its surrounding town. It's not like the terrorists successfully attacked the White House or something.
I said thousands if not millions but W/E
The attacks we have first hand (actually play) have shown that most of Eastern Europe, parts of Africa, Rural France, Japan,Hong Kong, multiple cities in the US and we are told multiple Arab and Asain countries have been attacked with most of the world living under martial law minus Western Europe and the U.S.
We also know that we have seen characters from many other nationalities and all have seen some form of attack so yeah I'd say it's global at this point
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix6th time; I Agree That she CAN Phasewalk BUT it's not PROVEN she can hold it long enough to outlast this hoard.
But we have proved that she was phasewalking. Jack couldn't track or see her. Only the aliens were aware of her presence. She physically moves around when she enters the phase. She exits the phase and punches Jack. Her exiting the phase is proof enough that she Phasewalked.So we can assume that but not that Lilith phasewalked?
Please prove how BL metals are inferior to real life metals?
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
But we have proved that she was phasewalking. Jack couldn't track or see her. Only the aliens were aware of her presence. She physically moves around when she enters the phase. She exits the phase and punches Jack. Her exiting the phase is proof enough that she Phasewalked.So we can assume that but not that Lilith phasewalked?
Please prove how BL metals are inferior to real life metals?
Originally posted by ArtificialGlorythey do more damage to Robots than Humans visually, if you can disprove this go ahead.
Really, I don't get why would he say that bullets/metals in BL are somehow "soft" or inferior when even basic bullets are effective against Kraggons, who have skin made out of rock.
They don't have to "disprove" anything. Again, you're demanding proof for one thing, but making baseless assumptions for another because you find it more convenient. That's not how this works. Proving the sudden notion that BL arms and armor are somehow Nerf quality ("made of lesser material"😉 is your burden.
Originally posted by pym-ftw
its not on her person though... Thus not standard gearI said thousands if not millions but W/E
The attacks we have first hand (actually play) have shown that most of Eastern Europe, parts of Africa, Rural France, Japan,Hong Kong, multiple cities in the US and we are told multiple Arab and Asain countries have been attacked with most of the world living under martial law minus Western Europe and the U.S.
We also know that we have seen characters from many other nationalities and all have seen some form of attack so yeah I'd say it's global at this point 6th time; I Agree That she CAN Phasewalk BUT it's not PROVEN she can hold it long enough to outlast this hoard. they do more damage to Robots than Humans visually, if you can disprove this go ahead.
Either way, we don't really have a number.
Most of Eastern Europe? You mean that one country that was undergoing a civil war which saw *some* use of BOWs? You mean Kijuju? Again, that wasn't even a country, but a region in some unnamed West African country. None of those are entire countries, but regions, towns, or cities.
Yes, bio-terrorism is a global threat, but so far the terrorists have not demonstrated the ability to take down a whole country. Lilith doesn't even have to outlast anyone in her Phasewalk, she only has to Phasewqalk long enough to take out high threats while avoiding damage.
Now this just reeks of shitpicking. A human enemy in BL can take an RPG to the face and not take any visible damage: limbs intact, no scorch marks, etc. Guns also don't leave bullet holes in enemies. The only thing this proves is that human enemies don't gib.
If by region you mean vaguely Russia to Vaugely Germany
So your answer is the game is dumb and your right regardless of proof? Ok
Originally posted by Sacred 117i proposed evidence, they haven't thus they MUST retort or concede.
They don't have to "disprove" anything. Again, you're demanding proof for one thing, but making baseless assumptions for another because you find it more convenient. That's not how this works. Proving the sudden notion that BL arms and armor are somehow Nerf quality ("made of lesser material"😉 is your burden.
Dumbass.
Originally posted by pym-ftw
If by region you mean vaguely Russia to Vaugely GermanySo your answer is the game is dumb and your right regardless of proof? Ok i proposed evidence, they haven't thus they MUST retort or concede.
Dumbass.
Do you mean Edonia, the fictional country in Eastern Europe we visit in RE6? Cause that's not "vaguely Russia to vaguely Germany". Your average Eastern European country isn't even remotely that large. Not to mention, the country was enveloped in a generic civil war until one side decided to start using BOWs, then the BSAA got involved. It wasn't a country-wide Bio Hazard.
It's not that the game is dumb, it's that it obviously has some limitations. I guess the other option would be that BL weapons kill via magic, because they don't leave bullet entry wounds and a direct hit from a rocket inflicts zero visible injury to a person.
Originally posted by pym-ftw
i proposed evidence, they haven't thus they MUST retort or concede.Dumbass.
Hey, genius... Yoohoo! Over here!
I'm the guy you're ironically accusing of being dumb, here to point out to you, my would-be accuser, how it's logically inaccurate to make a claim and demand it be disproven rather than validly proving it yourself.
Example: "We can simply ASSUME that BL has Super Soaker quality armaments, unless you can prove otherwise."
This fallacy is specifically referred to as (Shifting the) Burden of Proof. In other words, "I need not prove my claim; you must prove it false."
See the problem yet? You're asking them to prove a negative as opposed to presenting any actual evidence to reinforce your claim, and no, an admitted assumption does not pass for evidence, as it's founded entirely on nothing and was purported as nothing more than a convenient means of denial.
With that said, you should probably start digging for evidence now. Get to work, son! 👆
Originally posted by pym-ftw
You realize RE6 goes from where ever Wesker JR. is in (vaugely Russia) to Chris's (Vaugely German) and it took a plane for Jake to get across the mountains.They have blood splatter, and concussive force can kill.
You mean Edonia? Wasn't Jake captured and flown to China as a prisoner? When did he ever even go to Germany? I'm confused.
Yeah, being shot in the head and splattering blood all over the place doesn't make me think of concussive force. And even if it was concussive force, taking a direct hit from a rocket should leave a mark(even being killed by concussive force leaves identifiable injuries, especially if that force come from high explosives). I think the answer here is blatantly obvious.
Originally posted by Sacred 117guns don't maim humans but maim robots
Hey, genius... Yoohoo! Over here!I'm the guy you're ironically accusing of being dumb, here to point out to you, my would-be accuser, how it's logically inaccurate to make a claim and demand it be disproven rather than validly proving it yourself.
Example: "We can simply ASSUME that BL has Super Soaker quality armaments, unless you can prove otherwise."
This fallacy is specifically referred to as (Shifting the) Burden of Proof. In other words, "I need not prove my claim; you must prove it false."
See the problem yet? You're asking them to prove a negative as opposed to presenting any actual evidence to reinforce your claim, and no, an admitted assumption does not pass for evidence, as it's founded entirely on nothing and was purported as nothing more than a convenient means of denial.
With that said, you should probably start digging for evidence now. Get to work, son! 👆
Thus
Human > Robots
Why?; my assertion is metal is weaker in BL.
It's a fair guess and if you want to make an argument against it you need to invalidate my point especially if your arguing BL guns > RE Guns
If you don't understand now don't bother replying because I won't reply to you.
Originally posted by ArtificialGloryHe met up with Chris and together they fought some Giant Troll guys in the Vaugely German town.
You mean Edonia? Wasn't Jake captured and flown to China as a prisoner? When did he ever even go to Germany? I'm confused.Yeah, being shot in the head and splattering blood all over the place doesn't make me think of concussive force. And even if it was concussive force, taking a direct hit from a rocket should leave a mark(even being killed by concussive force leaves identifiable injuries, especially if that force come from high explosives). I think the answer here is blatantly obvious.
Not really, an Airburst could kill without leaving a mark.
Originally posted by pym-ftw
He met up with Chris and together they fought some Giant Troll guys in the Vaugely German town.Not really, an Airburst could kill without leaving a mark.
I am pretty sure you're talking about Edonia Republic, which is in Eastern Europe.
Not if the airburst originates 1 inch away from you and is coming from a high explosive. That would almost certainly dismember a person.
Originally posted by pym-ftw
guns don't maim humans but maim robotsThus
Human > Robots
Why?; my assertion is metal is weaker in BL.
It's a fair guess and if you want to make an argument against it you need to invalidate my point especially if your arguing BL guns > RE Guns
If you don't understand now don't bother replying because I won't reply to you.
Do I really have to repeat myself? "Assertion" is not proof. You can't simply speculate that BL weaponry is lesser built and expect your claim to be held to an absolute, and you're only claiming it as a means to further lowball your opposition in a fearful, desperate attempt to rectify your stance.
No one needs to invalidate your opinionated "guess" (your words) because guessing =/= evidence. If you say "BL materials are inferior," you have to actually prove it.
Seriously, before you say "you need to prove me wrong" again, search 'burden of proof fallacy', and try not telling me I don't understand if I clearly have a better grasp of this than you.