Originally posted by -K-M-
Doesn't look impressive? What? Also it took a point blank atomic bomb blast to KO himNot long. He died shortly after in death of the new gods and only recently appeared in the new DC universe.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Catching Orion's punch casually and koing him easily isn't impressive? Da ****?Also superman said he was stronger than usual in DONG and that he could trade punches with superman for hours. If that's not impressive, I don't know what is.
I was kidding
Has anyone forgotten about Cain's durability? Kalibak would have some very serious issues with it. Cain at his best was crushing Thor. Some believe that it was an amplification, while others believe it to be him focused. I was convinced that it was a focused Cain, since no evidence could be found on him having an external amplification that I know of. Cain isn't slow, so I don't know why the Orion feat has everyone so convinced of anything? Who in comics has ever bent Cain's hand back like Kalibak bent Orion's hand back? Whoever wins, won't be stomping the other based on popular opinion.
It's more, Orion is peers with the top dogs. Your Supes etc.
If someone had done the same to Thor, say, or Hulk, that would place that person way up on the food chain, strength wise.
On top of this, Kalibak has always had some pretty damn good durability. Nowhere near Cain, of course, let's not get carried away here. But on TOP of that, he now has psi beams, which are pretty much Cain's K-nite.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It's more, Orion is peers with the top dogs. Your Supes etc.If someone had done the same to Thor, say, or Hulk, that would place that person way up on the food chain, strength wise.
On top of this, Kalibak has always had some pretty damn good durability. Nowhere near Cain, of course, let's not get carried away here. But on TOP of that, he now has psi beams, which are pretty much Cain's K-nite.
He does look strong enough to rip that helmet off. This goes without saying, and if he did it would certainly mean he wins. TP for the win. I don't think he would beat Cain in a H2H, but then again he doesn't have to. Plus even if he did not know about the helmet, Cain has been written to be so dumb, that he would probably tell him about the helmet on his own.
Originally posted by riv6672
Right there.
I had to take some to to think about Cain's character. He's a doofus. Even Cytorrak said that he wouldn't have been his choice for an avatar. I could literally see him gloating about how his helmet stops mind attacks, and Kalibak smiling at him just before he tears it off and delivers the mind whammy. What I don't see happening is Kalibak stomping him physically. Cain is, or was a walking plot device. He takes more than he can give, and there aren't many that can take as much as he can. Still, character can't be ignored.
Is he really a doofus though? Back in the golden age pretty much everybody told you point blank exactly what they could do every time they got a chance. Since then he's sold me as a big lumbering guy, but he's never done anything outright dumb imo aside from attacking WWH while he was at a fraction of his power. That was dumb bravery though, not just dumb.
Originally posted by KingD19
Is he really a doofus though? Back in the golden age pretty much everybody told you point blank exactly what they could do every time they got a chance. Since then he's sold me as a big lumbering guy, but he's never done anything outright dumb imo aside from attacking WWH while he was at a fraction of his power. That was dumb bravery though, not just dumb.