Originally posted by Time Immemorial
He slammed cops non stop before he came mayor. He grew up in a time when new york cops were very crooked, that got cleaned up 25 years ago. NYC is literally the safest city in America today for its size. NYC is the finest PD in the nation, he has a tainted view of police from his up brining. His view is skewed and unrightfully bias from his upbringing.
What is wrong with criticizing the police? If there are elements that are worthy of critique, then critique away.
Clearly the NYPD is not the flawless policing force you think it is, even if they happened to be the "best in America" that'd still put them around the level of "generally incompetent" when viewed internationally 🙂
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
*cops oppress blacks.
He's right to caution his son about the dangers of racial profiling. He'd be a bad parent not to. Commenting about it to the media around the time the police were killed was probably not the best political move, but nothing of what he said was ignorant or especially incendiary.
Originally posted by krisblaze
What is wrong with criticizing the police? If there are elements that are worthy of critique, then critique away.Clearly the NYPD is not the flawless policing force you think it is, even if they happened to be the "best in America" that'd still put them around the level of "generally incompetent" when viewed internationally 🙂
I think when they're not abusing their power, American police are much better at protecting their public than the average European police.
Originally posted by BackFire
Guiliani is still at it. When Eric Garner was killed Guiliani excused it basically saying he resisted arrest, and so it was fine. Guy's a joke.
Not surprised, since his "I was the Major of NY when 9/11 happened" well has long run dry, he needs anything to draw attention to himself
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Yes, but that's generally true.He's right to caution his son about the dangers of racial profiling. He'd be a bad parent not to. Commenting about it to the media around the time the police were killed was probably not the best political move, but nothing of what he said was ignorant or especially incendiary.
Well, now, you're from Europe aren't you? The continent where police run away when rioters start burning cars?
I think when they're not abusing their power, American police are much better at protecting their public than the average European police.
Well it depends on the country naturally, but I'd much much rather have police who've received adequate training. How long does the the police academy hold onto people in the states? 20 weeks ish? In Norway we've got 3 years+ same in Germany. With high requirements to physical and mental performance on admittance, higher than almost every part of the military in fact.
I dont have much to say against one particular remark aimed at France or whatever 😛
Anyways, most police forces adapt to the issues they face regularly, which is why say the the French receive a lot of extra training in riot-control.
What I dont understand is why American police/state policies dont..
^Edit: https://www.ncjrs.gov/policing/eur551.htm
The general layout hasn't changed too much.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Yes, but that's generally true.He's right to caution his son about the dangers of racial profiling. He'd be a bad parent not to. Commenting about it to the media around the time the police were killed was probably not the best political move, but nothing of what he said was ignorant or especially incendiary.
Well, now, you're from Europe aren't you? The continent where police run away when rioters start burning cars?
I think when they're not abusing their power, American police are much better at protecting their public than the average European police.
Young black men target and kill cops. Facts support this. Look it up.
Originally posted by krisblaze
What is wrong with criticizing the police? If there are elements that are worthy of critique, then critique away.Clearly the NYPD is not the flawless policing force you think it is, even if they happened to be the "best in America" that'd still put them around the level of "generally incompetent" when viewed internationally 🙂
NYC is not the force it used to be, they cleaned up there act.
The major is a fool.
He started it and has no idea how do undo what he did. He either resigns or gets slaughtered in next election.
NYPD arrests are down dramatically. If this police strike leads to a rise in violent crime, it means the NYPD are putting petty anger towards a rightful criticism that the mayor, who was representing the criticism of the public, made at the police (who serve the public) ahead of public safety.
The fact they are allowed to do this (hell, the very fact that they were able to disrespect the mayor, at someone's funeral no less) is horrifying because it means they no longer care about the public and are acting as their own separate authoritarian entity, and the fact that anybody agrees with their petty and disrepectful reactions towards a very correct criticism of them is absurd IMO. The only thing DeBlasio did wrong was not fire everybody with a turned back on the spot.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
NYC is not the force it used to be, they cleaned up there act.The major is a fool.
He started it and has no idea how do undo what he did. He either resigns or gets slaughtered in next election.
That doesn't justify this kind of behaviour.
If they had been protesting cutbacks, layoffs and the like then it would've been better, but they're reacting to comments/attitude.
The sensible thing to do would be to prove him wrong as opposed to giving even more grounds to his complaints.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Young black men target and kill cops. Facts support this. Look it up.
Originally posted by Lestov16
NYPD arrests are down dramatically. If this police strike leads to a rise in violent crime, it means the NYPD are putting petty anger towards a rightful criticism that the mayor, who was representing the criticism of the public, made at the police (who serve the public) ahead of public safety.The fact they are allowed to do this (hell, the very fact that they were able to disrespect the mayor, at someone's funeral no less) is horrifying because it means they no longer care about the public and are acting as their own separate authoritarian entity, and the fact that anybody agrees with their petty and disrepectful reactions towards a very correct criticism of them is absurd IMO. The only thing DeBlasio did wrong was not fire everybody with a turned back on the spot.
Originally posted by Robtard
Not surprised, since his "I was the Major of NY when 9/11 happened" well has long run dry, he needs anything to draw attention to himself
Wait, what is the implication of that quote? That he should be lauded for being unlucky enough to be in office when that took place?
Is he trying to draw attention to himself? Are others that are Republicans?
Basically, I'm a bit lost regarding the context of your statement.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Wait, what is the implication of that quote? That he should be lauded for being unlucky enough to be in office when that took place?Is he trying to draw attention to himself? Are others that are Republicans?
Basically, I'm a bit lost regarding the context of your statement.
That he's an attention hound
No idea, he seems to be happy going on Fox News though
Edit: Here's his most recent outburst http://mediamatters.org/video/2015/01/07/on-fox-former-nyc-mayor-rudy-giuliani-you-dont/202052
He wants a police presence in US Mosques
I agree with him up till the point where he suggests that probable cause is unnecessary.
I do think if you have a mosque where the imam is preaching violence (assuming these mosques are the way they're being described and it isn't just FOX News blowing smoke), then paying attention to what's going on would be prudent, just as it would be prudent to have police listen in on churches where the KKK holds rallies.
The mistake is thinking that "mosque" is the operative word in "radicalized mosque."