Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Which is, in a Forum fight, PIS. In a comic book I see a slowpoke like Hulk, compared to Kal, hit Superman but in a Forum fight where they use their abilities in a smart way, not so much. That's the reason why I think that this thread, which depowers Kal, makes it at least a fair FORUM fight.
Thats what im shooting for. Just a debatable fight instead of a lopsided one.
Originally posted by Damborgson
[QUOTE33320]Originally posted by thingy150
[B]Just like prof said, PIS in some cases. Other cases people with super speed and reflexes hit him. Hulk has zero feats of reaction time and speed that are on supermans level.Your comment is basically a dumb excuse to ignore speed advantages.
Im not arguing on favor of Hulk having comparable speed to Superman.
The thread was made with that specific purpose. Tonignore the advantages that Superman has, and make it a test of strength. It's hardly unique among other threads that do the same.
If you don't like it, then go to another thread. Is that hard for you to understand? No one is keeping you here, and if it bothers you that the fight becomes so much closer under these stips, then start arguing for one or the other. Otherwise, keep your trolling urges under control. [/B][/QUOTE]
Not sure if you know what a troll is or if your IQ is just that low. Threads with specific purposes are stupid and if superman needs to have all of his power taken away to fight hulk, then that shows who is superior. Another thing is that it is not superman, taking away large aspects of characters make it dumb to even call this superman.
How does superman fight on hulks level? Does he just let hulk hit him or does he lose his superspeed? If he loses his superspeed he will be at a disadvantage because he will have to adjust.
LASTLY, it is unfair to take away multiple factors from a character and keep the other character(hulk) the same. Giving one character an unfair advantage by taking away from another character is just dumb. If superman needs to be played down to fight with the hulk then the battle is dumb to make in the first place.
Originally posted by thingy150
Not sure if you know what a troll is or if your IQ is just that low. Threads with specific purposes are stupid and if superman needs to have all of his power taken away to fight hulk, then that shows who is superior. Another thing is that it is not superman, taking away large aspects of characters make it dumb to even call this superman.How does superman fight on hulks level? Does he just let hulk hit him or does he lose his superspeed? If he loses his superspeed he will be at a disadvantage because he will have to adjust.
LASTLY, it is unfair to take away multiple factors from a character and keep the other character(hulk) the same. Giving one character an unfair advantage by taking away from another character is just dumb. If superman needs to be played down to fight with the hulk then the battle is dumb to make in the first place.
I don't see why you're being rude. From what I can gather Damborgson has removed a big advantage that Supes has (his speed) not to do anything bad.
It's pretty obvious he's trying to gauge who people think is stronger and more durable.
Not more powerful. I don't see why you don't just argue or debate without chucking in an insult each time.
He's making an even playing field so we can ascertain 2 specific areas rather than a wide range.
Because Supes speed is like a trump card you play to win the battle but having 2 base statistics gives you a reasonable well thought out argument.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
I don't see why you're being rude. From what I can gather Damborgson has removed a big advantage that Supes has (his speed) not to do anything bad.It's pretty obvious he's trying to gauge who people think is stronger and more durable.
Not more powerful. I don't see why you don't just argue or debate without chucking in an insult each time.
He's making an even playing field so we can ascertain 2 specific areas rather than a wide range.
Threads like this have been done a million times on both this forum and other ones. Having to take away speed, flight and all of supermans other powers is dumb because for starters, does superman have time to adjust to losing important parts of himself?
Originally posted by thingy150
Threads like this have been done a million times on both this forum and other ones. Having to take away speed, flight and all of supermans other powers is dumb because for starters, does superman have time to adjust to losing important parts of himself?
Him adjusting is up to Damborgson.
As I have stated Supes has a lot of things that put him at an advantage.
So he has taken to base categories and pitted Hulk and Superman in them and equalized speed. So no character holds an advantage over the other.
Which is when we can now argue over who is more stronger and durable overall.
You're looking at it negatively for some reason.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Him adjusting is up to Damborgson.As I have stated Supes has a lot of things that put him at an advantage.
So he has taken to base categories and pitted Hulk and Superman in them and equalized speed. So no character holds an advantage over the other.
Which is when we can now argue over who is more stronger and durable overall.
You're looking at it negatively for some reason.
I am a looking at this a tad negatively. Still do not like threads where you have to take away from a character to make it fair. Superman is more durable....
Originally posted by Damborgson
What? I'd like to see that if you have it on hand
http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media-full//snapshot4_zps9d272f98.jpg.html
http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media-full//snapshot5_zps1c5ad75e.jpg.html
You'll have to read the story. Overall, to enter the game, you have to die. Batman died as well. Mongul killed him which is the reason he received the amp he got.
Originally posted by thingy150
I am a looking at this a tad negatively. Still do not like threads where you have to take away from a character to make it fair. Superman is more durable....
That's the problem, you still have the advantages Supes has in your head.
For this thread you have to imagine that Supes has no power other than Strength and Durability.
Whatever you think outside of this scenario is null. We know the rules of this battle. Whether or not you think Supes without the limits posed by Damborgson stomps doesn't matter at all.
Like I said it's comparing 2 simple areas.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
That's the problem, you still have the advantages Supes has in your head.For this thread you have to imagine that Supes has no power other than Strength and Durability.
Whatever you think outside of this scenario is null. We know the rules of this battle. Whether or not you think Supes without the limits posed by Damborgson stomps doesn't matter at all.
Like I said it's comparing 2 simple areas.
We are not comparing areas this is a battle, if we are just comparing this sh*t should be shut down because it is not a battle. Obviously my correct perception that superman stomps with his normal abilities has no role in this thread.
Originally posted by thingy150
We are not comparing areas this is a battle, if we are just comparing this sh*t should be shut down because it is not a battle. Obviously my correct perception that superman stomps with his normal abilities has no role in this thread.
First of all chill out, we are comparing 2 areas. If Supes has higher Str and Dur then he wins. We compare feats from both and make a decision.
I just don't understand why you're acting like this. It's whose Str and Dur is higher?
Supermans or Hulks.
That's it.
