Darth Plagueis VS Exar Kun(Sabers Only)

Started by NewGuy012 pages
I mean, the lone fact that the leader of an entire civilization devoted to combat and war considered him the greatest warrior the galaxy has ever seen is already pretty solid hype.

LOL @a brute like Canderous being at all comparable to a Banite Sith, this is pathetic.

despite the fact that the Imperial Guard were trained specifically to kill powerful Jedi like Revan,

Rofl, nice try. Being trained to fight Jedi, and being trained to counter a specific form are vastly different, as are Venamis and a guard.

Revan also defeated hundreds of Dark Jedi by killing them

Dozens*, according to the actual material, and defeating enemies without killing them takes a lot more control than slaughtering them.

He also deflected fire from a literal Infinite Army of enhanced droids on the Star Forge

Dem infinite armies of a couple dozen droids.

Damn

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Update: ShootingNova made a Rebellion Era Luke respect thread.

At first I was impressed at how long it was, then I realized I was on his blogs page. His thread is severely lacking, in actuality. I'm actually really disappointed in Nova, tbh--and starting to understand where you and DMB were coming from.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I mean, the lone fact that the leader of an entire civilization devoted to combat and war considered him the greatest warrior the galaxy has ever seen (Tulak Hord and Exar Kun, anyone?) is already pretty solid hype.

and from there he goes on to slaughter an Imperial Guard member--the personal execution force of the Sith Emperor who canonically have unparalleled levels of physical perfection in their reign--despite the fact that the Imperial Guard were trained specifically to kill powerful Jedi like Revan, and were drawing off the strength of the most powerful Sith Lord in history!

-or-

and from there he goes on to defeat Darth Malak--the current reigning Dark Lord of the Sith who is one of the most powerful Sith Lords in history and harnesses an immense command of the Force, yet superior lightsaber abilities in "melee combat"--despite the fact Darth Malak has been stated to be the opposite of Revan in terms of nearly all combat related circumstances.


Also, while it's supposedly a impossible feat during the "prime of the Jedi", Revan also defeated hundreds of Dark Jedi by killing them, alongside two companions that don't resemble the strength of someone like Palpatine. He also deflected fire from a literal Infinite Army of enhanced droids on the Star Forge, as well as countless Mandalorians and Basilisk war droids (the same droids that have enough firepower to go through entire Star Destroyer size ships). [/B]

Lol.

Lol @ Newguy brown nosing to DMB. This is a guy who tried to lie and say Bane/Banite Sith were capable of resistance to drain at SWF, and who would fill a respect thread with his own analysis/nexus feats. He wouldn't do any better at a respect thread than Nova

Originally posted by carthage
This is a guy who would fill a respect thread with his own analysis/nexus feats. He wouldn't do any better at a respect thread than Nova

That's true, I was referencing a lack of content rather than quality of work.

Just a note, I laughed so hard at your PMs Sas. 😂 👆
I'm also assuming the majority of which you did not respond to is a concession/acceptance.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
LOL @a brute like Canderous being at all comparable to a Banite Sith, this is pathetic.

Uh, a Mandalore is no joke. Suggesting otherwise is lolworthy. Mandalorians alone are side-by-side equals to Jedi Knights.

Rofl, nice try. Being trained to fight Jedi, and being trained to counter a specific form are vastly different, as are Venamis and a guard.

Indeed, the Guard's more impressive. 😱 In all seriousness though, the form argument isn't that credible when you take in speed, precognition, and technical skill on such form.

Dozens*, according to the actual material, and defeating enemies without killing them takes a lot more control than slaughtering them.

They said dozens in a shit ton of different areas though, which would accumulate to hundreds.
Also, the text notes the Sith overcame them through superior speed (Force-enhancement), not in one-versus-hundred combat.
Also, he was only able to defeat them without killing them because the use of a Force pike, not because of skillful precision like you preach.

Those infinite armies of a couple dozen droids.

Infinite!!!11!!!!1!!!!!

Originally posted by carthage
Lol @ Newguy brown nosing to DMB. This is a guy who tried to lie and say Bane/Banite Sith were capable of resistance to drain at SWF, and who would fill a respect thread with his own analysis/nexus feats. He wouldn't do any better at a respect thread than Nova

Why do you keep going out of your way to insult me and try to piss me off?

Just a note, I laughed so hard at your PM Sas.

Me too.

I'm also assuming the majority of which you did not respond to is a concession/acceptance.

The stuff I didn't respond to isn't even related to Plagueis's feats. You said he did everything Plagueis did, so I'm not sure why you're giving feats that are completely unrelated.

Uh, a Mandalore is no joke. Suggesting otherwise is lolworthy. Mandalorians alone are side-by-side equals to Jedi Knights.

The weakest of the known Mandalores is no match for Bane. Or Meetra Surik, for that matter.

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This made no sense.

Also, the text notes the Sith overcame them through superior speed (Force-enhancement), not in one-versus-hundred combat.

Just so happens speed is part of lightsaber dueling.

Also, he was only able to defeat them without killing them because the use of a Force pike, not because of skillful precision like you preach

A jab from a Force Pike can kill a fvcking Bantha, dude.

The weakest of the known Mandalores that could get his ass kicked by Surik is no match for Bane or any of the elites from his lineage.

I was so offended by this I refuse to even respond.
Just so happens speed is part of lightsaber dueling.

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You were discussing raw technical prowess though, not all the other junk included.

A jab from a Force Pike can kill a fvcking Bantha, dude.

The pike has different energy settings, that was obviously among the higher one.
The text notes they defeated them each by a lone tap by the Force pikes, which didn't kill them.

Originally posted by NewGuy01

A jab from a Force Pike can kill a fvcking Bantha, dude. [/B]

It can also incap a full grown Wookiee with it's shock charge.

Although you got the quote for the Bantha one? That's rather interesting and I'd like to see, if ya got it.

The Force Pike is one of those pretty awesome melee weapons.

Exar Kun takes skill, strength and potentially precognition.

Keep in mind that Kun with a standard saber was a total stalemate for Ulic, a guy who has speedblitzed Dark Jedi and created quad after-images of not just his lightsaber but himself in combat. I don't see Plagueis being all that much faster despite his Venamis performance.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Except that he hasn't done any of what he said? He hasn't been regarded as a master swordsman by anyone noteworthy, he hasn't defeated a massively skilled dude specifically trained to counter him, he's not stronger than Vader, he's not faster than Maul, he hasn't defeated a hundred warriors without killing them, he hasn't deflected fire from dozens of attackers and multiple angles at once.

So um, you're completely full of shit?

Holy - does Neph argue against Revan here???

And calls Revan a male?

Newsflash, Neph argues against Revan all the time.

Ant ruined his Revan experience back in 2014.

SWTOR: Revan started it, Ant's wank finished it.

Dark Revan and Light Revan remerging is still a better love story than Dark Disciple.

Kun.