Is the Pope slamming Islam for what the Vatican and Christianity used to do?

Originally posted by Stoic
Was is the correct term, but it is no longer, because it left it's first love. You have to study the Bible to the point that you see clear differences in what the bible teaches, and what the Catholic Church teaches. If you delve deep enough, you will be shocked to say the least. I'm ready to go to war over the fact that their candle has long since been removed from [b]most of the Catholic Churches, and all that remains are spiritual territories. The Bible is a treasure map. I respect your choice of turning you back on spiritual things, but i believe that everyone has the right to believe in what they want to. However I am addressing the title of this thread. It was not Christians that marched on innocent people, and killed them for their lands, it was the Crusaders, that hid behind his name to justify their evil deeds.[/B]

The Crusaders were Catholics, hence Christians.
I do not see understand your point in differing Roman Catholicism with Christianity.
Catholicism is a part of Christianity. Its teachings are focused on Jesus Christ.

The main differences it has with the other so-called Christian cults are:
1. Its special emphasis on the Virgin Mary
2. They believe in miracles through saints and holy objects
3. The image of the Body of Christ is present in their crucifixes
4. God is composed of 3 entities with the same level of power: God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit.

Btw, your statements just reaffirmed my stance that all these neo-Christian denominations are nothing but cults spreading lies with their distorted interpretation of the Roman Catholic Bible.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
OK. I just wanted to clarify my stance in this religious debacle.

The Crusaders were Catholics, hence Christians.
I do not see understand your point in differing Roman Catholicism with Christianity.
Catholicism is a part of Christianity. Its teachings are focused on Jesus Christ.

The main differences it has with the other so-called Christian cults are:
1. Its special emphasis on the Virgin Mary
2. They believe in miracles through saints and holy objects
3. The image of the Body of Christ is present in their crucifixes
4. God is composed of 3 entities with the same level of power: God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit.

Btw, your statements just reaffirmed my stance that all these neo-Christian denominations are nothing but cults spreading lies with their distorted interpretation of the Roman Catholic Bible.

Your post seems to imply that the Bible is their creation.

Also, how is everything a cult aside from Catholicism...what are you taking about?

Originally posted by Stoic
Prove that longevity means the correct path. Prove that the Catholic Church does not dabble into idolatry, mysticism, and witch craft. So because the Catholic Church was the first church, does this mean that they are still the church that they began as? Remove the blinders, and look at what goes on in the Catholic Church. Catholics are Catholics. Mormon's are the Children of Moroni.

Technically Eastern Orthodox Catholics are also the first Church.

Aren't protestant churches respectful of the first councils and the christian living tradition anyways? Both of those came before the Bible was even gathered and they outweight the book when it comes to canon -they pretty much made the Bible canon-. They even did apart with the Torah.

The difference between Catholicism and Islam is that Catholicism has began retconning many of their inhumane discriminatory dogmas to adapt to the modern human-rights-advocating world, whereas Islam refuses to and as such is seen as the barbaric religion it is. To give one example of many, Pope Benedict, the leader of the Catholic community, has famously dismissed biblical homophobia, whereas in Saudi Arabia, the leaders of the Muslim community, homosexuality is punishable by torture and death. Sorry, but Islam allows human rights violations that must be seen as they are. As society progresses with intelligence, it also clearly does in empathy, and the modern world will not stand for people to undergo horrific suffering for Islamic dogma.

Originally posted by Stoic
No they are not the same as Catholics. ...

Stomping your feet and saying no doesn't make it so. The basic belief in the salvation of Jesus is shared by all Christians, and that includes Catholics. Coming form the point of view of an outsider, the rest doesn't matter.

You can't see the forest for the trees.

Originally posted by Stoic
Let me be the first to correct you. Your question should read; [b]Is the Pope slamming Islam for what the Vatican and Catholicism used to do?

Jesus and the Apostles would have never done these things. Nor were they taught to do these things. What does the bible teach? Luke 6:28-30 28bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. 29"Whoever hits you on the cheek, offer him the other also; and whoever takes away your coat, do not withhold your shirt from him either. 30"Give to everyone who asks of you, and whoever takes away what is yours, do not demand it back.

Matthew 5:39
But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.

Matthew 5:40
And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well.

Why don't you tell the real truth about something? Why don't you tell the people about the true origins of Christmas? How it really has nothing to do with Christianity. It seems that your battle is with the truth, but not against lies. [/B]

Originally posted by Mindset
Does the Pope condone the Inquisition?

If not, then I don't see your point.

Using the thread starter's logic we should condemn the current Aztec descendants for their human sacrifice, the American descendants for slavery, the German descendants for the Holocaust Egyptian descendants for enslaving the Jews, etc. 👇

Originally posted by Robtard
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Well done everybody. clapclap

Originally posted by Mindset
Roman Catholic Bible isn't original text.

Your post seems to imply that the Bible is their creation.

Also, how is everything a cult aside from Catholicism...what are you taking about?

Yes, all Christian denominations that came from Catholicism (ie. Protestantism, Lutheran, etc.) are fake religions that unscrupulous businessmen with Messianic complex invented.
All these 'born-again' Christianity-is-not-a-religion-it's-a-relationship cults are just money-making schemes that are contradictory to the original Christian religion, which is Roman Catholicism.

Just like how Shia Islam, Nation of Islam, Five-Percent Nation, etc. are bastardized versions of the original Sunni Islam.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
I know that the Roman Catholic Bible (NJB) is a heavily modified version of the original Bible written in Aramaic.
But since it is the oldest Christian religion, it makes sense that they have the version closest to the original text.

Yes, all Christian denominations that came from Catholicism (ie. Protestantism, Lutheran, etc.) are fake religions that unscrupulous businessmen with Messianic complex invented.
All these 'born-again' Christianity-is-not-a-religion-it's-a-relationship cults are just money-making schemes that are contradictory to the original Christian religion, which is Roman Catholicism.

Just like how Shia Islam, Nation of Islam, Five-Percent Nation, etc. are bastardized versions of the original Sunni Islam.

I don't think you understand what a cult is.

These "My Jesus is better than yours" arguments are amusing, carry forth

edit: May I suggest a way to sort out whose Jesus is better? I say we give precedence by age. The older the denomination, the better their Jesus is. eg Roman Catholics > Baptist, Baptist > Mormons, Mormons > 7th Day Adventist etc. etc. etc.

Originally posted by Robtard
These "My Jesus is better than yours" arguments are amusing, carry forth

edit: May I suggest a way to sort out whose Jesus is better? I say we give precedence by age. The older the denomination, the better their Jesus is. eg Roman Catholics > Baptist, Baptist > Mormons, Mormons > 7th Day Adventist etc. etc. etc.

Again, technically Eastern Orthodox Catholics are as old as the Roman Catholics, don't follow a single pope (they are more like archbishops), were not in the crusades nor the inquisition, and have a smaller cult of icons.

So this is more like "which western Jesus is better".

Originally posted by Bentley
Again, technically Eastern Orthodox Catholics are as old as the Roman Catholics, don't follow a single pope (they are more like archbishops), were not in the crusades nor the inquisition, and have a smaller cult of icons.

So this is more like "which western Jesus is better".

But they are not Christian because they don't use the king James Bible. 😂 (That was a joke)

My Jesus could beat up your Jesus.

Originally posted by Bentley
Again, technically Eastern Orthodox Catholics are as old as the Roman Catholics, don't follow a single pope (they are more like archbishops), were not in the crusades nor the inquisition, and have a smaller cult of icons.

So this is more like "which western Jesus is better".

Don't give me any of that nonsense. Where do they fall in the Christian Chronology Calendar (aka the CCC)?

Originally posted by Robtard

edit: May I suggest a way to sort out whose Jesus is better? I say we give precedence by age. The older the denomination, the better their Jesus is. eg Roman Catholics > Baptist, Baptist > Mormons, Mormons > 7th Day Adventist etc. etc. etc.

The versions from other Bibles' are alternate versions of himself from different timelines, modified by contemporary writers with Messiah complex issues.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
Roman Catholic Jesus is the protagonist of the mainstream continuity.

The versions from other Bibles' are alternate versions of himself from different timelines, modified by contemporary writers with Messiah complex issues.

Jesus is the protagonist is every facet of Christianity.

You're not playing by the rules of the CCC, give a founding date; stand by that.

Originally posted by Robtard
Jesus is the protagonist is every facet of Christianity.

You're not playing by the rules of the CCC, give a founding date; stand by that.

CCC? You mean the Gregorian calendar?
Then Roman Catholic Jesus > Eastern Orthodox Jesus >>> other Jesuses.

But the "New 52" is new and not an original source, hence "New" in the title. So your analogy is closer to Mormonism, where it's the new(er) kid on the block and states "My Jesus is the correct Jesus; the rest of you older religions are not right anymore".

CCC = Christian Chronology Calendar

That isn't a date, we need dates!

Also, Eastern Ortho is just about as old as mainstream Catholicism at its roots, they just split off in the 11th century because the Greeks and Latin speakers had an argument over beard or something. But I'll give you that, Roman > Ortho

Originally posted by Stoic
Let me be the first to correct you. Your question should read; [b]Is the Pope slamming Islam for what the Vatican and Catholicism used to do?

Jesus and the Apostles would have never done these things. Nor were they taught to do these things. What does the bible teach? Luke 6:28-30 28bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. 29"Whoever hits you on the cheek, offer him the other also; and whoever takes away your coat, do not withhold your shirt from him either. 30"Give to everyone who asks of you, and whoever takes away what is yours, do not demand it back.

Matthew 5:39
But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.

Matthew 5:40
And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well.

Why don't you tell the real truth about something? Why don't you tell the people about the true origins of Christmas? How it really has nothing to do with Christianity. It seems that your battle is with the truth, but not against lies. [/B]

Outstanding post that shut GIA up and sent him back to his handler for more subject brought about through deception.

Originally posted by Robtard
Don't give me any of that nonsense. Where do they fall in the Christian Chronology Calendar (aka the CCC)?

They are the same Church as the Roman Catholic, they had a schism with the around the, Sixth or Seventh Vatican Council? The popes are representatives of the churches established by the original apostles and (except for the Russian Orthodox Church I think) can be traced back for one of them as their respective Patriarch. The Roman Catholics were themselves traceable from the early Church established by Saint Peter. During the 20th Century both the Roman Catholics and the Eastern Catholics removed each other's excommunications.

That's what I said a day ago, Bentley. God!