Is the Pope slamming Islam for what the Vatican and Christianity used to do?

Originally posted by Greatest I am
Is the Pope slamming Islam for what the Vatican and Christianity used to do?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/charlie-hebdo-pope-slams-deviant-forms-of-religion-in-wake-of-paris-attacks-9971981.html

Compare the tactics of Islam to those of Christianity when it ushered in the Dark Ages and Inquisition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR02ciandvg&feature=BFa&list=PLCBF574D

Are those tactics and ways not the same and does that not say that all idol worshipping religions, especially Christianity and Islam are evil?

Regards
DL

religion is nothing but planned evil with disguised fake rewards

Originally posted by Shabazz916
religion is nothing but planned evil with disguised fake rewards

Like I said before, Catholics are not Christians. They share many of the same things, but they have too many add-ons that were never asked of them in the bible. Let's look at the origins of the Druids to get clear proof that Catholicism delves into Witch Craft. Catholicism is as close to being Christianity as Judaism is to being Christianity. Christianity does not change over time to suit peoples views, and/or to make them feel more comfortable because they did not like a certain aspect of the teachings in the bible. Catholicism does, and has all along. It is no longer the church that it began as. Christianity is a way of life, and it never taught people to pray before idols, or to place a mediator between us and God. Islam, and what is taught in its different sects is not the same thing that goes on in Christianity. It is clear that the bible condemns many of the practices that go on in Catholicism. If you have trouble seeing this, you had better delve deeply into what the differences are. The teachings of the Bible are the foundations of Christianity, and Catholicism. Catholicism is not the foundations of Christianity or the Bible. Lets get it right. Twisting it will not ever change the fact, that Catholicism practices things that go against the bible.

So yes the Pope is slamming Islam for what the Vatican, and Catholicism used to do.

Well said

Originally posted by Stoic
The teachings of the Bible are the foundations of Christianity

The teachings of Jesus are the foundations of Christianity. That should make it clearer.

Other than that, many of the criticism that goes against the Catholic doctrine does not apply to the wholesome of the catholic community. Is funny to see them bashing essentially for being tolerant towards some religious practices.

Originally posted by Bentley
The teachings of Jesus are the foundations of Christianity. That should make it clearer.

Other than that, many of the criticism that goes against the Catholic doctrine does not apply to the wholesome of the catholic community. Is funny to see them bashing essentially for being tolerant towards some religious practices.

Wrong. Christians follow the entire Bible, they don't begin with the New Testament, and live their lives according to the the Apostolic doctrine. If you felt that me telling the truth about Catholicism was me bashing the religion, you couldn't be more wrong. Like I said in my previous post, you had better delve deeper into the differences between the two. Catholicism is like a health store that began selling only healthy foods, but then decided that it would be more profitable to sell ho ho's, donuts, and many other foods that constitute to the saying of being overfed, yet undernourished. Catholicism practices things that are clearly against what the Bible teaches, and what they are supposed to adhere to.

Like I said, Catholicism is not the face of the Bible. They are supposed to follow it, but they chose to add things to it, and take things away from it to please others. The Bible is not supposed to follow Catholicism, Catholics are not supposed to pray to idols, they aren't supposed to practice white magic, or any kind of magic, or mysticism. You would know this if you studied, or looked deeper into the history of Catholicism, and then cross referenced it to what the Bible teaches. Bashing or the truth Bentley?

Originally posted by Stoic
Wrong. Christians follow the entire Bible, they don't begin with the New Testament

So your argument is that christian don't follow the teachings of Jesus? (which was my claim) If so, say it directly.

Let's agree that they follow a fraction of the Torah alright, but they selected the books they wanted, based in their considérations towards the teachings of Jesus. They could've chosen to keep the entire of Jewish canon if they deemed it necessary. If my memory serves me right, that wasn't the case.

That selection of books only goes to further prove that christianity isn't originally/exclusively based in the books. They obviously questioned the pertinence of each text back in the day and went from there.

Originally posted by Stoic
You would know this if you studied, or looked deeper into the history of Catholicism, and then cross referenced it to what the Bible teaches. Bashing or the truth Bentley?

I'm not really interested in discussing Catholicism in this fashion, because I understand what you mean and I like to think that your heart is in the right place when questioning these practices you mention. I already said my pace: in my country most people will attack catholicism based in their present/past intolerance to certain beliefs, and seeing them being attacked for being not orthodox enough comes out as funny to me.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
I never said anything about Roman Catholicism being the correct path.

I just merely stated the facts, that Roman Catholicism is the oldest and the largest Christian church in the world, and that all these Christian cults stemmed from it and are being used as means for profit as a business by greedy megalomaniacs with a severe case of Messiah complex.

Religion is NOT the correct path.
It never was, never will be.

Knowledge, skills, and technological advancements ARE the keys to world unity.
We should all abandon these primitive belief systems, and strive to improve ourselves on our own.

We are doing so in both science and law. Secular is demonstrably superior to what the Abrahamic cults, Christians, Muslims and others have on offer.

Regards
DL

Originally posted by Lestov16
The difference between Catholicism and Islam is that Catholicism has began retconning many of their inhumane discriminatory dogmas to adapt to the modern human-rights-advocating world, whereas Islam refuses to and as such is seen as the barbaric religion it is. To give one example of many, Pope Benedict, the leader of the Catholic community, has famously dismissed biblical homophobia, whereas in Saudi Arabia, the leaders of the Muslim community, homosexuality is punishable by torture and death. Sorry, but Islam allows human rights violations that must be seen as they are. As society progresses with intelligence, it also clearly does in empathy, and the modern world will not stand for people to undergo horrific suffering for Islamic dogma.

Let us pray to all the mythical Gods.

But remember that at the times of the Inquisition, many probably thought as you and I do and likely died.

Regards
DL

Originally posted by Badabing
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All I am saying is that Catholicism religion has done the exact same thing in the past, albeit far worse and on a much larger scale.

Some will see the pope as a revolting hypocrite and has no place condemning the same actions that, in the past, contributed to the success of his own club.

Even this gent whom I have never seen use foul language has let loose on the pope.

https://richarddawkins.net/2015/01/the-way-of-the-mister-****-the-pope/

With regard to the pope encouraging violence, this is not entirely true: http://www.independent.co.uk...

Regards
DL

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
I know that the Roman Catholic Bible (NJB) is a heavily modified version of the original Bible written in Aramaic.
But since it is the oldest Christian religion, it makes sense that they have the version closest to the original text.

Yes, all Christian denominations that came from Catholicism (ie. Protestantism, Lutheran, etc.) are fake religions that unscrupulous businessmen with Messianic complex invented.
All these 'born-again' Christianity-is-not-a-religion-it's-a-relationship cults are just money-making schemes that are contradictory to the original Christian religion, which is Roman Catholicism.

Just like how Shia Islam, Nation of Islam, Five-Percent Nation, etc. are bastardized versions of the original Sunni Islam.

All those offshoots are like children learning how to walk yet not quite able to let go of mamma's skirt. Rather pathetic that.

Regards
DL

Originally posted by Robtard
These "My Jesus is better than yours" arguments are amusing, carry forth

edit: May I suggest a way to sort out whose Jesus is better? I say we give precedence by age. The older the denomination, the better their Jesus is. eg Roman Catholics > Baptist, Baptist > Mormons, Mormons > 7th Day Adventist etc. etc. etc.

Religions are supposed to be about morals and ethics. Why not look at the various policies of the various Jesus' and decide from that?

The oldest should be the most barbaric and the one who would likely lose.

The Gnostic Jesus would likely win but every time I ask a Christian of any camp to argue morals, they all tuck tail and go hide with their pacifiers.

Christians know that their religions are immoral but do not care as their religions have corrupted their morals.

Not surprising as their creed starts with having to embrace human sacrifice.

Regards
DL

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Outstanding post that shut GIA up and sent him back to his handler for more subject brought about through deception.

Cheep shot by a cheep guy. Thanks for showing us all your small mind.

Regards
DL

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Yeah. Shame on the Pope and the Catholic church for changing for the better and recognizing their own past flaws in others. Shaaaaame.

When did the pope admit this?

Please get the link.

You will also note that I have a link above showing the pope advocating violence against free speech.

Regards
DL

Originally posted by Shabazz916
religion is nothing but planned evil with disguised fake rewards

If you mean that churches and mosques are always lying to people then I agree.

And stupid people will actually pay to be lied to.

Regards
DL

Originally posted by Stoic

So yes the Pope is slamming Islam for what the Vatican, and Catholicism used to do.

I did not think you bright enough to come around but here you are. Good for you. I stand corrected and agree with you agreeing with me.

Regards
DL

Originally posted by Greatest I am
Religions are supposed to be about morals and ethics.

While I agree that religions are linked with ethics and morals, I'm still unsure if they are "supposed to be" just about that. Moral superiority is based in social schemes that change with time, so any religion that has any kind of identity would be at least a bit immoral at some point.

Originally posted by Bentley
While I agree that religions are linked with ethics and morals, I'm still unsure if they are "supposed to be" just about that. Moral superiority is based in social schemes that change with time, so any religion that has any kind of identity would be at least a bit immoral at some point.

That is why religions have to change over time. Those who do not change become immoral.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That is why religions have to change over time. Those who do not change become immoral.

It's an accurate statement, everything changes, religion is a human practice, obviously it'll change (it can remain immoral in the process).

I recently had a discussion about how religion isn't supposed to be about morals at all, but about reaching a higher understanding of trascendence and spiritual reality. I'm not sure if I'd stick to that definition either.