KMC: Choose ONE Power

Originally posted by MF DELPH
Seriously? There's no superpowers whatsoever in the real world. That argument is hollow. We have no frame of reference for any of this save the fiction we're pulling from. This "Delph's the only one limited by the real world" tact is folly. You're really going to argue realism in a thread about using comic book superpowers? The tech may not pre-exist, but I'm not limited by what actually exists, I'm limited by the materials that exist on this planet in real life. I'm not going to be able to make anything that might contain adamantium or promethium, sure, but I'm not limited to only making iPads and Hummers simply because that's the extent of real world technology. Seriously? If that were the case you wouldn't be able to teleport because there isn't really a Darkforce Dimension.

I was arguing based off the argument that you can't make power dampeners, and Sentinels. Is that not the same? A scanner that can detect energy (which, incidentally, I'd like to remind you, neither Tony nor Reed nor Pym were able to track when hunting Cap) that does not exist?

I mean, you were saying you were going to use the Internet and essentially put together everything you needed. Fine. My issue with that is, if you're agreeing you can't make dampeners, because there's no analogue in the real world.....where are you getting the knowledge to build a machine that even fictitious brainiacs combined were unable to? That's all.

Unless the rationale for no power dampeners etc was because they used fictional materials, in which case, my bad.

I can instantly assemble tech. I'm also not limited to only Sage and Jeffries. I'm technopathy. Any low herald and below application of technopathy is mine to use. All technopaths in all fiction.

^lolwat

I don't have a problem with Delph building something otherwordly. I just think that those things would take much more time. He'd essentially have to learn to make a power dampener or Darkforce scanner from scratch, and using the stuff in our world only. A google search won't help that.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

Carver, Style has said he's not doing the global mind whammy. Golgo hasn't. So not sure what else you got.

Blair's ruling via PM (which I agree with) just removed a power from my consideration. I was going to pick Kang's ability to pull weapons/tech from the timestream. But I'd be limited to real-world tech, and wouldn't have access to Marvel tech. So, no dice.

If the ruling had gone the other way, I'd have wrecked shop. But it's consistent with the ruling on Delph's knowledge, so I'm happy.

I'm down to two hilariously opposite strategies. But I'm about to head out for the night, so this may have to wait until tomorrow.

So, power dampeners, yay or nay?

Master Molds?

Scanners which detect black bodies?

Where's the line drawn, is my question. Either you can make things which are fictional, or you can't. You're a techno path, as you said. You can make anything you want. So why would there be an arbitrary line between a dampener and a scanner?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Where are you Celey? Near me? Near enough to get me?

Assuming Abhi or h1 are indeed teaming with you. Don't forget, no prior knowledge.....you don't know that I'm the Spot. Just that I teleport.

Then you'd have to somehow meet up with your speedster friends, agree to stop fighting, and come for me.

If you're going at it alone.....what's stopping the other two from trying to attack you?

Either way, you're not hitting me in the first second, which is all I need.

Carver, Style has said he's not doing the global mind whammy. Golgo hasn't. So not sure what else you got.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I was arguing based off the argument that you can't make power dampeners, and Sentinels. Is that not the same? A scanner that can detect energy (which, incidentally, I'd like to remind you, neither Tony nor Reed nor Pym were able to track when hunting Cap) that does not exist?

I mean, you were saying you were going to use the Internet and essentially put together everything you needed. Fine. My issue with that is, if you're agreeing you can't make dampeners, because there's no analogue in the real world.....where are you getting the knowledge to build a machine that even fictitious brainiacs combined were unable to? That's all.

Unless the rationale for no power dampeners etc was because they used fictional materials, in which case, my bad.

Ok, for clarification:

I was saying I would use the internet to acquire all the engineering knowledge of our world, then Blair Wind clarified that we have innate knowledge of the use of our powers while not having the experience of the comic characters that possess it, which means that I can use my imagination and assemble any machine I want within reason. I can produce scans of Jeffries creating a scanner to track extra dimensional energies, and I can produce a scan of he and Dr. Nemesis making up a field of physics by working together. I'm personally an accountant, not an engineer (though I do write program logic for processing of data files). If I get the passive traits that allow me the full use of low herald technopathy, that includes the innate intelligence and ingenuity exhibited by technopaths in fiction. That's what I'm saying. Which means that I can create things that don't exist in our world just as they do in theirs, materials permitting, since this ability doesn't exist in our world.

So power dampeners are on?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So, power dampeners, yay or nay?

Master Molds?

Scanners which detect black bodies?

Where's the line drawn, is my question. Either you can make things which are fictional, or you can't. You're a techno path, as you said. You can make anything you want. So why would there be an arbitrary line between a dampener and a scanner?

I think the onus would be on Delph to learn anything that isn't currently real-world, and convincingly prove that he would learn it. So like, Master Molds? I can't imagine it ever. But there may be way to fuse existing technologies together to make something greater than what currently exists. With Madison's processing power and intellect, it's certainly possible. But yeah, likely nothing too "out there" or it would take years to even have a chance of learning.

{edit} or what Delph said, which is basically the same. He's probably gonna be higher on his abilities than the rest of us, but it's the same idea.

Delph going too far with this.

There's been some kind of misunderstanding.

What Delph is saying 👆

Scanners are way more in-line with real technology anyway and shouldn't pose a problem for Delph to manipulate deep space sensors to be reconfigure for purposes of scanning what is essentially a type of worm hole.

He can't, however, create adamantium based robotics. And I just don't like the idea of Power Dampeners being used, or else it becomes a massacre, so those are just out period. But outside of that, permitting real world materials, I don't have a problem with what Delph is proposing (or talked to me in PMs about)

Fair enough 👆

Delph, your army of steam punk copper Sentinels awaits.

Which leads back to what I said. By the time Delph figures out how to make the things he's trying to make, he would be frozen or sucked up in a tornado.

Also, you can tell when Delph is getting frustrated when he drops B-Dub for Blair Wind.

I think their point is that wouldn't Delph need to know what frequencies to scan for in order to reconfigure real world satellites and know how things like power/psi dampeners work before he could make them? Because that type of info isn't available in the real world.

And again, I reiterate:

Tony, Reed and Pym combined, working together, were unable to work out how to track Cloak, and he was using more of it (judging by the art of his cloak). Cap was using it with impunity. And this is from the same universe.

And I know Delph has an innate sense of tech, and will instantly know how to reconfigure a satellite detection system....but what is it detecting? Am I part of the UV spectrum or what? Its not like we even have anything analogous, because we cant even detect black holes. That he can do it, I have no doubt....once he knows what to look for, that's all.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
To get in your head. Scared?

Originally posted by carver9
Reflash, what abilities do you have?

The SWT allows me to make my own luck and use fate to my advantage. It's an ability that's both active and passive.

With it I'm always in the right place at the right moment, always meet the right person according to my goals, bullets and spells? miss their marks. Locate someone? Not a problem neither! I can even run into them accidentally when they're taking a beer or scratching their nuts unprepared, etc.

As long as I keep riding the synchronicity wave I'm nigh-invincible, it also gives bad luck to my enemies. It shouldn't be treated as magic though, as it is being aware of the synchronicity wave at an instictual level, and being able to control it at my pleasure.

Originally posted by Reflassshh
I already do that from time to time 😈

The SWT allows me to make my own luck and use fate to my advantage. It's an ability that's both active and passive.

With it I'm always in the right place at the right moment, always meet the right person according to my goals, bullets and spells? miss their marks. Locate someone? Not a problem neither! I can even run into them accidentally when they're taking a beer or scratching their nuts unprepared, etc.

As long as I keep riding the synchronicity wave I'm nigh-invincible, it also gives bad luck to my enemies. It shouldn't be treated as magic though, as it is being aware of the synchronicity wave at an instictual level, and being able to control it at my pleasure.

Would that ability help against a Global attack of epic proportions? Like a dozen tornados falling down in your area. What can you really do against that?

I have a rough idea where he is; I arrive just in the nick of time to save him from your evil clutches.