Star Wars (Marvel 2015)

Originally posted by ares834
Except I'm completely right. Sure there was some ice and snow but the vast vast majority of it were some "stone" pillars. We even here the sound of grinding stone.

They weren't stone pillars, that was ice.

As they collapsed, you could clearly see them being reduced to chunks of ice.

And the corpses of Jedi show that he is right. It requires two, not one.

Either the masters weren't powerful enough to get out on there own, or, like the episode suggested?

They waited until they died without ever having tried to free themselves.

No, seriously, instead of dodging my arguments and stone walling?

Try getting me the quotes I asked for

Or perhaps not repeat yourself ad nauseam :hmm

Nope. They most certainly were not crushed. If anyone want to check watch a higher quality version like on netflix.

Originally posted by ChaosTheory123
Kanan also mentions they waited their in hopes their padawans would return

Or did you not actually watch the episode

They never made an effort to escape

So butthurt about being wrong that you're lying now? I just checked. He doesn't mention that they waited there in hopes that their padawans would return. He merely said their padawans didn't return.

Originally posted by ares834
Nope. They most certainly were not crushed. If anyone want to check watch a higher quality version like on netflix.

I'll watch it again on Netflix then to double check

Last I remembered, as they were sliding down, they didn't disappear fast enough into the ground to have slid into place and the debris raining from the cliff face thus suggested they were crushed to me :hmm

So butthurt about being wrong that you're lying now? I just checked. He doesn't mention that they waited there in hopes that their padawans would return. He merely said their padawans didn't return.

Huh, could have sworn he mentioned or at least implied that's why they died there :hmm

That's fair enough if not. My memory isn't exactly perfect.

Still not actually addressing my questions

Quotes for force sensitives working together being exponentially more powerful or the environment somehow being the mechanism by which these things work without input of the force user.

Upon rewatch, whether they were crushed is a bit more ambiguous than I remember :hmm

The ice appears to disappear, but this is only due to the fact it's disappearing into a pre-existing cloud of debris, thus making it harder to tell if it was truly destroyed or not

That said, while it weakens the feat some, it doesn't make it weaker than Maul and Savage's displays. Vader's might trump it had we seen how badly he'd have crushed the AT-AT.

Still looking for explanations pointing to either the environment doing the work for them, or force users together possessing exponentially more power than apart

A second hand explanation given from psychometric deductions of Ezra and Ahsoka' explanation (which would be contradicted by the fact Yoda got in there alone if they truly didn't crush the cliff to get passed) aren't actually valid points to cite.

Unless you assert rock holds sentience now.

Sidious also ragdolled both Darth Maul and Savage Opress at the same time in the new canon. So yea, he has the best feats still

He's undoubtedly so with powerscaling

This discussion is just talking conventional destructive showings from what I understood :hmm

Originally posted by ares834
Lol

Originally posted by Tzeentch
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Nope. Revan still have better TK feat....

Nope. 👇 Vader devours his soul.

http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=19652
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/palpatine-vs-revan-canon-versions-1631670/?page=3

Revan TK is his primary force abilities.... I try to find feat as Darth Revan... I just know tha he make a ship of the size of the endar spire which was stationed into orbit crash on the power generator of a city to disable the automatic artiellerie and the rest of the defence system, without damaging it.. But that's it....

Star Wars Feat - Revan's Telekinesis
Posted 04-05-2013 at 05:01 AM by ChaosTheory123
Updated 07-07-2013 at 07:33 PM by ChaosTheory123
Spoiler:
Just about the only Star Wars related thing I give a damn about is the kotor portion of the series.

Granted, I find star wars in general enjoyable (the original trilogy was fun to watch when I was younger and all that fun shit), but this is the only part of the series I'd say I'm a full "fan" of.

And skimming wookiepedia's article on Revan, I noticed in the power's and abilities list that it was mentioned he was capable of tking numerous large space rocks and use them to bombard some sith party that was fighting him.

For a ****er that managed to avoid any real quantifiable combat feats in his own starring game... that's a fairly nice feat to finally get.

The feat.

I saw and counted about 22 different asteroid's being pulled down by his TK that ended up pulverized upon impact... could have been more, but I had the audio off and wasn't listening for impacts.

Spoiler:

Sith = 88 pixels

Asteroid 1 Vertical Radius = 156 pixels

Asteroid 1 Horizontal Diameter = 388 pixels

Asteroid 2 Vertical Radius = 232 pixels

Asteroid 2 Horizontal Diameter = 334 pixels

Asteroid 1 Vertical Radius/Sith = 1.773

Asteroid 1 Horizontal Diameter/Sith = 4.409

Asteroid 2 Vertical Radius/Sith = 2.636

Asteroid 2 Horizontal Diameter/Sith = 3.795

Sith = 1.7 meters

Asteroid 1 Vertical Radius = 3.014 meters

Asteroid 1 Horizontal Diameter = 7.495 meters

Asteroid 1 Volume = 142.527 m^3

Asteroid Density = 2,700 kg/m^3

Asteroid 1 Mass = 384,822.9 kilograms

Asteroid 2 Vertical Radius (the light orange line, ignore the purple bit, that was an initial **** up) = 4.481 meters

Asteroid 2 Horizontal Diameter = 6.452 meters

Asteroid 2 Volume = 195.242 m^3

Asteroid 2 Mass = 527,153.4 kilograms

And...

Spoiler:

Sith = 65 pixels

Asteroid 3 Diameter = 212 pixels

Asteroid 3 Height = 326 pixels

Asteroid 3 Diameter/Sith = 3.262

Asteroid 3 Heigth/Sith = 5.015

Sith = 1.7 meters

Asteroid 3 Diameter = 5.545 meters

Asteroid 3 Height = 8.526 meters (also the distance it traveled in 1 frame)

Asteroid 3 Volume = 137.191 m^3

Asteroid 3 Mass = 370,415.7 kilograms

Ok, now to find the speed, which I need a time frame for.

Nice to know I can scale from the blaster fire then.

From what I've gleaned, blaster fire seems to generally be considered around mach 3-5, not to mention something about them having supplanted something called slug throwers, which themselves fire at hypersonic speeds.

I figure using mach 3 here as a low end doesn't hurt given that.

Spoiler:

Blaster Travel = 220 pixels

Sith = 169 pixels

Blaster Travel/Sith = 1.302

Blaster Travel = 2.213 meters

Blaster Speed = 1,020.87 m/s

Time Frame = 0.002 seconds

Which means the asteroid's travel at...

Asteroid Speed = 4,263 m/s

Note? Both the asteroid and blaster bolt move there respective distances in the same number of frames, namely 1.

Anyway...

This gives us...

Asteroid 1 Kinetic Energy = 3,496,725,798,000 joules or 835.738 tons

Asteroid 2 Kinetic Energy = 4,790,023,914,000 joules or 1.145 kilotons

Asteroid 3 Kinetic Energy = 3,365,813,558,000 joules or 805.026 tons

Ok, that's the individual asteroids and gives an idea of how powerful his TK is when its focus is split upon different objects.

For the full power of his TK, just multiply the average of the 3 yields gotten here by 22 (I say average, given they all appear to be similar in size in the video with some variation, and taking the average between the 3 seems fair enough here)

I COULD scale all the other 19 odd asteroids, but lazy and shit, and the result won't change much regardless.

Number of Asteroid's = 22

Average Energy Between Asteroids 1-3= 928.588 tons

Energy Exerted By Revan's TK = 20.429 kilotons

So, Revan's sporting town level TK at a minimum.

Not sure how this powerscales to other force powers, given I know jack all about how the force works, but here you go anyway.

Final Tally

Energy Exerted By Revan's TK = 20.429 kilotons

It's ok, because Chaos calc'd Anakin to be something like a hundred times that.

Still the best TK feat is detain by the ancient and old sih master of the golden era...

Destroying star.. The moon around Korriban to proove tha you are a god... Etc etc etc...

Originally posted by NewGuy01
It's ok, because Chaos calc'd Anakin to be something like a hundred times that.

I have an alternate version of the meteor feat using the space battle over head as a speed measuring stick too (the results of which sort of dwarf Anakin's Padawan feat), fully bearing in mind that such drastic exceptions to conservation of energy on other forums may or may not be acceptable in the first place.

Where I post, we kind of chucked it off to the side as repeatedly being ignored in most series with how often bloodlusted attacks with the intent to kill in such and such series tend to fail to have as massive collateral as some earlier feat that was done far more casually, but that doesn't need to be how it operates here.

Just noting this for anyone that somehow takes my or any of our work as concrete as opposed to being one of many possible interpretations for a given feat :maybe

Originally posted by Revanchiste
Still the best TK feat is detain by the ancient and old sih master of the golden era...

Destroying star.. The moon around Korriban to proove tha you are a god... Etc etc etc...

When has Revan, or anyone not the World Razer or greater, even been implied to destroy a ****ing star of there own power?

What's this about a moon on Korriban too?

What bad piece of french fanfiction are you quoting, because in no official material (be it games, novel, or comics) has Revan ****ed up a star or moon with TK :geg

I'm late to the conversation as I get my comics delivered a week late and don't like spoilers when it comes to the new Canon material.

Originally posted by WildBantha88
Sidious has his Force choking Dooku from across the galaxy. As far as I'm concerned that is the best TK feat in the new canon

This.

Tk feats are not all about size.

But still between this comic and Palpatine himself calling Vader's Force powers unparalleled in Tarkin, it seems Disney is going to make Vader the 3rd most Powerful Jedi/Sith right behind Yoda/Sidious.

Revanchiste... Revan isn't confirmed in the new canon. As far I'm concerned, when discussing new canon at least, your talking about a character that doesn't even exist

Third issue out.

Well it didnt take long to have our first major continuity problem. A guy who shows up in Vader #1 was clearly decapitated here... And the ending of this comic was rather horribly decompressed.

Originally posted by ares834
Well it didnt take long to have our first major continuity problem. A guy who shows up in Vader #1 was clearly decapitated here... And the ending of this comic was rather horribly decompressed.

Is the third issue worth getting? Sub-question, is Boba Fett in it yet?