That it happened on a nexus doesn't mean that it isn't a showing of power. There isn't a precedent for the idea that nexuses rapidly multiple a Force-User's powers, and with this case specifically Bane was hardly massively overwhlemed by how much more powerful he was at the temple. Any reasonable interpretation of the source material would suggest that he could replicate something comparable off nexus.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Especially considering he gets more powerful afterwards. This wasn't Bane at his best.
Then the Huntress also marvels specifically at the power of Zannah's concealment spell wondering who could command such power, also right after seeing the Sith Sorceress devastate Ambria and Thon contain the dark side to Lake Nath. And a severely injured Bane without his orbalisks in ROT has the power to snap ROT Zannah's neck with a thought.
Even substantially far away from their primes and Bane and Zannah still have immense power.
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Originally posted by appletonia
That it happened on a nexus doesn't mean that it isn't a showing of power. There isn't a precedent for the idea that nexuses rapidly multiple a Force-User's powers, and with this case specifically Bane was hardly massively overwhlemed by how much more powerful he was at the temple. Any reasonable interpretation of the source material would suggest that he could replicate something comparable off nexus.
I never denied it was a showing of power, only that Bane cant and never could reproduce it and that the nexus imbued him with additional power to accomplish it. Bane admitted to Lehon being a planet powerful in the darkside, as well as the additional power of the temple. Kas'im would've been amped by both energy sources, and none of them are present here - and he lacks showings in the force off of Lehon, to show he can withstand being ragdolled
For skill Kas'im has beaten no one other than an off panel brief mention of his master, whereas, Marek has beaten Kota, Paratus, and a nexus amped Shaak Ti. Marek is a better duelist than Kas'im
Originally posted by DarthAnt66Lol dude, that is rich. You are hellbent on humiliating people whenever you step into a debate with them. It's like your mission to have every poster on the internet at your feet fanboying over your Revan respect thread or whatever, and if they aren't doing that you're embarrassing them in front of the whole forum. One need only take a look at your post history on comic vine for a very potent example of what I'm talking about.
To be fair Carthage, you haven't been adding anything positive to the community lately. Same to you, ILS.
Also, lowballing characters isn't trolling. Nobody owns those characters on KMC and they don't get to decide what is said about them. If they are bothered by the posts of others the ignore function is always available.
While it's disheartening that this thread is just turning into another Bane circle jerk, it's good to see DMB being active and debating again rather than trolling in the Battle Bar.
Kas'im's technical bladework and mastery does eclipse Galen's to some degree or another, but he's still faced with the same problem he had with Bane--Galen is simply more powerful, and unlike Bane he isn't a stranger to dual blades.
Technicality didn't matter too much when he got driven back, obviously Bane had known his lightsaber form well- but for training for a few months it makes Kas'im look incompetent.
In terms of dueling Marek has the better showings in defeating Paratus, Kota, and a nexus amped Shaak Ti.
When it comes down to skill and dueling ability Marek has the better showings, and Kas'im is at best hype.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
While it's disheartening that this thread is just turning into another Bane circle jerk,
Originally posted by NewGuy01Thanks
it's good to see DMB being active and debating again
Originally posted by NewGuy01
rather than trolling in the Battle Bar.
[QUOTE=]Technical skill doesn't matter much.[/QUOTE]
I don't think so; though ironically in any other case, Neph would likely agree with you.
It didn't matter too much when he got driven back, obviously Bane had known his lightsaber form well- but for training for a few months it makes Kas'im look incompetent.
You've made my case for me. Bane was not only familiar with Kas'im's lightsaber style, but had specifically studied the workings of his weapon during his campaign against Siraak; and according to Kas'im the greatest advantage of the saber staff is the unfamiliarity of the weapon. Aside from that, the two were intimately familiar with one another's styles and tactics--obviously Bane being the faster and stronger of the two would tip the scales in his favor. Furthermore, at the end of the day, Kas'im beat Bane anyway.
Originally posted by carthage
and he lacks showings in the force off of Lehon, to show he can withstand being ragdolled
He doesn't need showings in the force off of Lehon, he has one on Lehon, a mighty one at that, and one that you claim to not deny as a showing of power. That he cannot replicate the same feat off of Lehon does not mean that he in all likelihood cannot replicate something close.
Originally posted by appletonia
He doesn't need showings in the force off of Lehon, he has one on Lehon, a mighty one at that, and one that you claim to not deny as a showing of power. That he cannot replicate the same feat off of Lehon does not mean that he in all likelihood cannot replicate something close.
Originally posted by ChaosTheory123
Think the basic gist of the gibberish is that they're suggesting you're all overstating how massive a boost nexii give a given feat.I think.
It's kind of almost 5 am and insomnia's doing me no favors with reading comprehension.
Well, I think that the central issue is that nexuses do give a boost in power. How large is it is really a less important question.
There is still some merit to nexus feats. Like, Ahsoka Tano wouldn't be replicating Bane's Temple feat even if she had the same nexus. If one can figure out how much a nexus helps a feat, roughly speaking or precisely, and without bias, you can begin to quantify how powerful that character is. At least enough to say that Bane is > _______, even if you don't have his TK down to an exact number.
As it is now, we have one camp who devoutly pass Bane's nexus amplifications off as either negligible or nigh-negligible, and then there's the camp that refuses to see any merit in Bane's nexus feats because he was amped in any fashion. Neither interpretation works.