Originally posted by krisblazeNot really. It was just stated that even the most powerful of his race are vulnerable to magic:
Was Gladiator's "weakness to magic" ever really explored?
Said weakness was also confirmed in his bio:
http://i.imgur.com/BM7r0oG.jpg
Anyway, Doom wins by virtue of possessing some of the most powerful magic in Marvel.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
To be fair, Sentry was really suspectible to that kind of a spell because of his insanity. That was commented on later in the same issue.
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Originally posted by JayDaDon
Doom used some backhanded spell and sent Sentry reeling. Sentry. More powerful than Gladiator with no magic weakness. Glads' confidence would PLUMMET if Doom used even just that.
That was a Spirit Reversal spell that confronted him with the Void.
It makes you see your worst imaginable nightmares. A bit of context to that. So all that spell would do is make Gladiator see his worst nightmare. Which would probably weaken Glads.
Originally posted by One_Angry_ScotYea, that would probably be a great spell to use on someone whose powers depend on their mental state.
👆That was a Spirit Reversal spell that confronted him with the Void.
It makes you see your worst imaginable nightmares. A bit of context to that. So all that spell would do is make Gladiator see his worst nightmare. Which would probably weaken Glads.
Originally posted by One_Angry_ScotHere are some better quality/readable scans:
Yeah here it is."He reacted too strongly to that Spirit Reversal spell".
Thought I would quote it as writing is very small.
-Mighty Avengers #10 (2008)
Originally posted by Galan007
Here are some better quality/readable scans:
http://i.imgur.com/jRzgEiS.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/kI6a40m.jpg-Mighty Avengers #10 (2008)
Ah don't worry I had the comic on my HDD but I had to put it on medium imgur size otherwise the whole page gets messed up.
Glads better attack with something he's never shown on panel. Doom armor handled punches from Cosmic Hulk. This Hulk had cosmic energy inside of him that came straight from Galactus himself. If he withstand these blows, that's all he need to do is cast a spell and it's done. Anyone with magic weakness, isn't beating Doom.
Originally posted by carver9then I'll argue that Hulk did hit him hard enough. Don't worry, Glads will and with planet destroying power too.
Glads better attack with something he's never shown on panel. Doom armor handled punches from Cosmic Hulk. This Hulk had cosmic energy inside of him that came straight from Galactus himself. If he withstand these blows, that's all he need to do is cast a spell and it's done. Anyone with magic weakness, isn't beating Doom.
Originally posted by Galan007
Not really. It was just stated that even the most powerful of his race are vulnerable to magic:
http://i.imgur.com/3zkub9U.jpgSaid weakness was also confirmed in his bio:
http://i.imgur.com/BM7r0oG.jpgAnyway, Doom wins by virtue of possessing some of the most powerful magic in Marvel.
I'm just amazed that people instantly give Doom the win here because of a mind-spell against the Sentry and some unproven magic weakness.
From what I've seen Gladiator's done far better against most opponents than Doom.
Originally posted by JayDaDon
Doom has some really good hand to hand showings against the Hulk, who has beaten the mess out of Glads. If he can take what the Hulk can dish out Glads shouldn't be too much for his armor+shields.
Gladiator lost to the Hulk because he took a thunderclap to the ears and then he was dragged to a nuclear reactor...
Bringing up this kind of nonsense just makes me want to bring up all the ridiculously low showings that doom has.
This is also the worst line of reasoning. "Doom's armour withstood hits from Hulk, ergo anyone who's lost to the Hulk will be beaten by Doom". Real hits from Gladiator would slice through Doom's armour like a hot knife through butter...
Doom has shields that have stood up to far worse. We can't discount the win. Hulk beat Glads. One way or the other it was going to happen. We've seen doom physically go toe to toe with the Hulk multiple times. That alone speaks to his suit's strength. Again, his shields have just straight up taken FAR more damage than Gladiator can dish out. They'll stand long enough for Doom to Magic whammy him.
Originally posted by JayDaDon
Doom has shields that have stood up to far worse. We can't discount the win. Hulk beat Glads. One way or the other it was going to happen. We've seen doom physically go toe to toe with the Hulk multiple times. That alone speaks to his suit's strength. Again, his shields have just straight up taken FAR more damage than Gladiator can dish out. They'll stand long enough for Doom to Magic whammy him.
Fighting the Hulk doesn't somehow mean that you'll be immune to Gladiator's attacks, far from it. Spidey's got phucking 2 wins and like 5 fights against the Hulk...
There's no reason to believe that Doom's magic would affect Gladiator's confidence. He's got mind-shields, insane willpower and proof of magic not having an effect on his confidence.
I'm leaning towards a dozen super-punches straight through Doom's headpiece.
