Originally posted by DarkSaint85
A; Wolverine was mind controlled (and had been fighting against his programming
B; Their real target was Elektra, and it was just to draw her out.
He was mind controlled (its mentioned in the scans) but he was still a beast. He worked everyone that came his way. Even took out my boy Ben Grimm.
Vs Deadpool.
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Originally posted by Werewolf582
Combat feats don't equal physical feats.Spiderman can beat Rhino, does that make him able to lift 80 tons?
This isn't a weight lifting contest. It's obvious strength is a wash here. We are arguing about street level characters, not planet benchers. Daredevil fts are better overall. This is a fight. What has DCNU Batman shown that gives him the edge here.?
Originally posted by carver9
This isn't a weight lifting contest. It's obvious strength is a wash here. We are arguing about street level characters, not planet benchers. Daredevil fts are better overall. This is a fight. What has DCNU Batman shown that gives him the edge here.?
Fought for 28 hours in freezing cold weather with little clothing.
One shotting highly advanced armored robots.
Armor is bullet proof.
Your only argument is Daredevil fighting all these people when he has been beaten by less. Show me him fighting for long periods of time in harsh conditions. Show me him taking bullets like nothing, and no I don't want him surviving a punch from someone like Panther or Cap, show me bullets not affecting him. Show me him tanking a point blank building busting blast like Batman.
I don't want a combat feat, I want to see him actually do anything close to this.
But as a wise (fighter) once said, 'boards don't hit back'.
What is the point of him fighting in freezing cold weather with little clothing? Does that mean if it was a nice warm dojo, he can fight for 56 hours?
Robots are....well, there's Ultron.
Bulletproof armour is great. Amazing. Wonderful. So what? It's not as if he has it here. He has it in all those lovely little scans that have been shown, but he doesn't have it here. OP specified no weapons - and Batman has weaponised his suit (tasers, chemical pellets etc). So his suit counts as a weapon.
Originally posted by Werewolf582
Fought for 28 hours in freezing cold weather with little clothing.One shotting highly advanced armored robots.
Armor is bullet proof.
Your only argument is Daredevil fighting all these people when he has been beaten by less. Show me him fighting for long periods of time in harsh conditions. Show me him taking bullets like nothing, and no I don't want him surviving a punch from someone like Panther or Cap, show me bullets not affecting him. Show me him tanking a point blank building busting blast like Batman.
I don't want a combat feat, I want to see him actually do anything close to this.
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Why do I need to show you any of those things? This isn't a durability/strength ft thread. Again, we are discussing street level character. You naming all or those fts are irrelevant since Wolverine would one shot kill Batman (if the opportunity arose) and DD has done well against him. I'm not naming everything but everything you said is irrelevant in a fight like this. The people DD has fought and lasted against is better than fighting for 20+ hrs straight (depending on who you are fighting). Him withstanding punches from an angry Spiderman is better than taking a bullet in an non dying area on your body. There are streets that has fought through being shot and some doesn't stand a chance against DD.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But as a wise (fighter) once said, 'boards don't hit back'.What is the point of him fighting in freezing cold weather with little clothing? Does that mean if it was a nice warm dojo, he can fight for 56 hours?
Robots are....well, there's Ultron.
Bulletproof armour is great. Amazing. Wonderful. So what? It's not as if he has it here. He has it in all those lovely little scans that have been shown, but he doesn't have it here. OP specified no weapons - and Batman has weaponised his suit (tasers, chemical pellets etc). So his suit counts as a weapon.
But it shows great striking power if he broke it with ease.
Better stamina feats, showing he can last longer than Daredevil.
Spectre >>>>>>>>
It said no belt, not armor.
Originally posted by Werewolf582
Fought for 28 hours in freezing cold weather with little clothing.One shotting highly advanced armored robots.
Armor is bullet proof.
Your only argument is Daredevil fighting all these people when he has been beaten by less. Show me him fighting for long periods of time in harsh conditions. Show me him taking bullets like nothing, and no I don't want him surviving a punch from someone like Panther or Cap, show me bullets not affecting him. Show me him tanking a point blank building busting blast like Batman.
I don't want a combat feat, I want to see him actually do anything close to this.
So for a thread about a HTH fight, you want feats of things like bullets and blasts rather than those that showcase fighting skill and ability?
Originally posted by Werewolf582
But it shows great striking power if he broke it with ease.Better stamina feats, showing he can last longer than Daredevil.
Spectre >>>>>>>>
It said no belt, not armor.
Yes, but...ah, you've missed the point of the quote lol.
Stamina is great - do you REALLY think the fight will be going on for 28 hours? 24? 15? 8? Even if it goes on for FIVE hours, constantly....that's already pretty hardcore, do you think these two are that evenly matched?
No.
The fight is going to go on for a good few minutes, and will be ended inside of an hour, at the level these two go at.
Haha. I guess you didn't see the bit about the Spectre then.
Doesn't say anything about armour. I DELIBERATELY said weapons. As a Bat-fan, surely you know Batman has weaponised his suit? That it has tasers built in, gas delivery systems built into the cowl etc? You DO know that his suit itself is a weapon, right?
Originally posted by carver9
😐Why do I need to show you any of those things? This isn't a durability/strength ft thread. Again, we are discussing street level character. You naming all or those fts are irrelevant since Wolverine would one shot kill Batman (if the opportunity arose) and DD has done well against him. I'm not naming everything but everything you said is irrelevant in a fight like this. The people DD has fought and lasted against is better than fighting for 20+ hrs straight (depending on who you are fighting). Him withstanding punches from an angry Spiderman is better than taking a bullet in an non dying area on your body. There are streets that has fought through being shot and some doesn't stand a chance against DD.
PIS, Daredevil surving attacks from people who outclass him in almost everything is supposed to be taken into consideration. Why do striking and durability feats not matter? Seeing how Batman outclasses him in both. Again, show me a stamina feat that matches Batmans instead of trying to use combat feats as an excuse. You mean those same people that outclass him in almost everything yet he still wins?
Originally posted by Werewolf582
PIS, Daredevil surving attacks from people who outclass him in almost everything is supposed to be taken into consideration. Why do striking and durability feats not matter? Seeing how Batman outclasses him in both. Again, show me a stamina feat that matches Batmans instead of trying to use combat feats as an excuse. You mean those same people that outclass him in almost everything yet he still wins?
So you bring up Batman vs Spectre but is screaming PIS? Really?
I already posted some fights for you showcasing everything you need to know about DD.
