Originally posted by Jmanghan
Bruce Lee can take Cap if its just purely H2H, but loses horribly to Spider-Man.
Lol no. Cap takes him.
Originally posted by Quincy
What was he "never that good at?"We're going into realism now? Because Bruce Lee is as much of a fighter as these two fictional comic book characters.
There are much better martial artists.
Originally posted by Psychotron
He was an actor, and a skilled martial artist to be sure, but he was never a competitive fighter.
Do you have to be a competitive fighter to be good at combat?
"Competitive fighting" is a sport =/= a fight with no rules. Of course in a 1v1, many of the skills may translate well across, but its not the same.
Someone in the military, or a street fighter could be better, but never fought "competitively".
Competitive fighting is not the ultimate standard of combat by any means. In fact, I would rather bet on someone who has had much experience killing H2H than on competitive MMA fighters in a real fight.
None of this is relating to proving Bruce Lee was any good one way or another. You just have to go by people's testaments.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Also, second best martial artist I can think of is Jet Li.
Are we talking about movie MAs or IRL MAs? Because I'd put Tony Jaa, and a few others over Bruce in movies, and a lot of guys IRL.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Cap is a brawler, a DAMN good one, but a brawler. It's about speed, and technique, if Cap loses his shield, Bruce Lee takes him in about 20-30 seconds.
Brawling is better anyway, those fancy moves you see in films are almost always useless. The best combo for real life is striking + some ground work. Cap is also superhuman. Bruce can't take him, never mind Spider-man.
Originally posted by Placidity
Do you have to be a competitive fighter to be good at combat?"Competitive fighting" is a sport =/= a fight with no rules. Of course in a 1v1, many of the skills may translate well across, but its not the same.
Someone in the military, or a street fighter could be better, but never fought "competitively".
Competitive fighting is not the ultimate standard of combat by any means. In fact, I would rather bet on someone who has had much experience killing H2H than on competitive MMA fighters in a real fight.
None of this is relating to proving Bruce Lee was any good one way or another. You just have to go by people's testaments.
Bruce Lee has never been a competitive fighter, OR a trained killer, OR a street fighter. I know people love him, but he would get murdered by any modern day fighter.
Originally posted by Psychotron
Brawling is better anyway, those fancy moves you see in films are almost always useless. The best combo for real life is striking + some ground work. Cap is also superhuman. Bruce can't take him, never mind Spider-man.
Originally posted by Psychotron
Bruce Lee has never been a competitive fighter, OR a trained killer, OR a street fighter. I know people love him, but he would get murdered by any modern day fighter.
Bruce had multiple real off screen fights with trained fighters. Invented the one punch technique. Has had other marital artist masters state that they would never fight him one on one. He is master marital artist in hand to hand combat as well as weapons. He is recognized as this by all martial artist.
MMA, boxing, etc, is a sport with rules. In a fight with no rules outcomes are different.
Originally posted by Kotor3
So is Bruce Lee. This is feats from all movies. Bruce is superhuman in Chinese Connection.LOL. Your statement is so incorrect. You do not have a lot of knowledge on Bruce Lee do you? Chuck Norris (A champion professional fighter and Bruce sparring partner) admitted that he did not know if he would win in a straight fight against Bruce Lee.
Bruce had multiple real off screen fights with trained fighters. Invented the one punch technique. Has had other marital artist masters state that they would never fight him one on one. He is master marital artist in hand to hand combat as well as weapons. He is recognized as this by all martial artist.
MMA, boxing, etc, is a sport with rules. In a fight with no rules outcomes are different.
I still don't think Bruce Lee can put down Rogers, he survived a laser shot right in the chest. And then there's Spider-man.
Funny that you mention Chuck Norris, because I remember an interview about Bruce where the interviewer asked Chuck if the two of them ever sparred, and Chuck replies that they never did because both of them knew there'd be no point. Chuck was a 7 time karate world champion and Bruce was an actor.
Post some of these fights with real fighters then. The one punch technique is useless in a fight and has done by other people. MMA is as close to a real fight as you can get and far more practical than any eastern martial art. Put him in a fight against someone like Anderson da Silva and Bruce would be DOA. I'm not even going to talk about what happens if you put him against some heavyweight like Alistair Overeem.