Student slams teacher for taking his phone.

Started by Omega Vision9 pages

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
What you talkin about?
It's not like you guys are stuck in 1950s.

I could care less if it was 50 years or 5 years.
The Asians in America can integrate well with the whites, why can't the blacks?
Slavery existed in numerous countries in Asia as well, even longer than the black slavery in US.


Slavery in the United States was of a different character than slavery in Asia or Africa, because it became a purely racial institution with long term impacts on the black psyche.

Look, I just moved to a black neighborhood, and despite my education and my best efforts to shake the feeling, I still get subconsciously nervous when I see a scruffy looking guy in a hoodie or with dreadlocks walking around. Blacks have found it difficult to integrate into society because they're distrusted by whites on a subconscious level.

Lots of white people (conservatives more often than Liberals, but everyone might be guilty of this) deny that they have these subconscious racial impulses because they're ashamed, but the first step to overcoming the problem is to admit that you have the problem.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
Cool beans.
Don't know how STDs have anything to do with this issue though.

I stated how this relates to the issue:

Originally posted by dadudemon
...sex with attractive women (raw-dog) is the most important thing regarding existence...

This means that anything posted relates back to this: always.

But, to be less evasive and far more specific on why my point relates to the topic, we were talking about the dirty negros doing negro-y things. And the STDs thing was brought up by you about those dirty gros. One common misconception in America (a prejudice that even I catch myself holding) is that Asian Americans are the cleanest, smartest, most respectful, law-abiding citizens. To my shock and dismay, the Asian-American women have lots of STDs!!! This shattered my perceptions. Basically, is was a point about how racism can go a bit too far. It was also a bit o' satire to lighten the mood because it was getting serious in this thread.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
I was more focused on the other social and educational issues which are far more related with this incident.

You don't have to worry about getting STDs from African Americans...or do you? You're not longer in Dubai?

Originally posted by riv6672
Bingo.
Someone made a comment on page one i think about African American/European American. I just prefer American. Or Black. Dont care about Africa (as pertains to my origin), so why identify myself with it?

👆

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
What you talkin about?
It's not like you guys are stuck in 1950s.

I could care less if it was 50 years or 5 years.
The Asians in America can integrate well with the whites, why can't the blacks?
Slavery existed in numerous countries in Asia as well, even longer than the black slavery in US.


It's hard to forgive and forget 350-year long racial discrimination in only a 50 year time span. And are you seriously denying that if a race only has 50 years to get an education, they will not immediately be on an equal playing field with a race that has had nearly 400 years to learn? Are you denying the difficulty of integration with such a wide gap in education, not to mention centuries of fueled animosity from both races?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Look, I just moved to a black neighborhood, and despite my education and my best efforts to shake the feeling, I still get subconsciously nervous when I see a scruffy looking guy in a hoodie or with dreadlocks walking around.

That's because you're racist. uhuh

Seriously, though, that's big of you to admit something like that.

Originally posted by Lestov16
And are you seriously denying that if a race only has 50 years to get an education, they will not immediately be on an equal playing field with a race that has had nearly 400 years to learn?

I believe it took Italian Americans 70 years to exceed the Socioeconomic Status of the average American if you count 1910 (this was around the time that they started pouring in) as the starting point. 70 > 50 so I guess I am proving your point?

I get scared too, but that's because some dirty 'gros tried robbing me once.

Originally posted by dadudemon

I believe it took Italian Americans 70 years to exceed the Socioeconomic Status of the average American if you count 1910 (this was around the time that they started pouring in) as the starting point.

And like blacks, Italians were forcibly enslaved and denied education for hitherto their whole history, and like Black Americans, did not have single point of prosperity or cultural identity from their host country in their entire history. Just like blacks 🙄

Were you a victim of slavery of these American whites?
I don't understand why you keep attacking the whites for something that their ancestors did to your ancestors.
You see, that's the problem right there. You keep blaming the whites for what they did, not what your race is doing now.

Originally posted by Lestov16
I get scared too, but that's because some dirty 'gros tried robbing me once.

I get the sense that black people are almost as scared of thug-looking dudes as white people are, and they have much more reason to be seeing as most of the time they're the victims of violent crime.

Originally posted by Lestov16
And like blacks, Italians were forcibly enslaved and denied education for hitherto their whole history, and like Black Americans, did not have single point of prosperity or cultural identity from their host country in their entire history. Just like blacks 🙄

To be fair to Dadude's point, Southern Italy, which is where a lot of Italians came from, particularly the darker ones, was never and is still not a particularly developed region. Since Classical times, Southern Italy and Sicily have been on par with the Balkans as Europe's poorest, least-cultured region.

Even today, Calabria is a horribly poor region that's basically run by organized crime.

Originally posted by Lestov16
And like blacks, Italians were forcibly enslaved and denied education

This is mostly true. They were forced into labor conditions that rivaled harsh WWII Jewish Concentration Camps and deaths, while on the job, abounded (conditions that most slave owners would not subject their slaves to because slaves were valuable property). They were systematically denied education, obviously.

Originally posted by Lestov16
like Black Americans, did not have single point of prosperity or cultural identity from their host country in their entire history.

African American culture is a complicated and widely varied culture that goes back centuries and even, to this day, has African (from Africa) Cultural influences. So complicated and varied this culture (and subcultures) is, that entire college degree programs are centered around studying these just like this (http://aas.syr.edu/). When a person tells me that Black Americans had their culture stripped from them and this is the reason for Black America have poor SES compared to American ethnicities, this takes a massive shit on everything that Black Americans have accomplished, the rich culture and traditions, the varied cultures, and the contributions Black American has given to America. Black Americans didn't have their culture ripped from them entirely when they were transported to the Americas. Additionally, they matured and formed their own culture (and subcultures). Continuing to blame Black SES issues on the "lack of culture" is not cool.

It is better put by Cedric:

YouTube video

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
Were you a victim of slavery of these American whites?
I don't understand why you keep attacking the whites for something that their ancestors did to your ancestors.
You see, that's the problem right there. You keep blaming the whites for what they did, not what your race is doing now.

He seems to do pretty well for himself, really.

I don't want to speak for him but he's referring to other members of his community who have not been so fortunate or motivated to succeed.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I get the sense that black people are almost as scared of thug-looking dudes as white people are, and they have much more reason to be seeing as most of the time they're the victims of violent crime.

Black men kill each other more than anyone else (and their killing of each other exceeds the deaths of all other races...IIRC). A black man has more of a legitimate fear of another black man.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
Were you a victim of slavery of these American whites?
I don't understand why you keep attacking the whites for something that their ancestors did to your ancestors.
You see, that's the problem right there. You keep blaming the whites for what they did, not what your race is doing now.

I would love LOVE if we could entirely forget the past and move forward on egalitarian footing, but that is an idealistic notion. Fact is blacks have to get 350 years of racism and ignorance off their backs, so it will be harder for them to adjust. Do I blame whites entirely for the plight of blacks right now? No. I have made comments on this site condemning the black community for it's self-imposed ignorance, but a lot of that ignorance is from their ancestors being denied education by white ancestors, so both parties are to blame for the current situation, especially when even today blacks are treated as de facto second class citizens. I just don't like how whites say blacks should forgive and forget and adjust to life and blame them entirely when they are unable to, when a lot of contemporary black ignorance is due to white ancestors forcing ignorance on us. Don't excuse the past of white ancestors just because the laws have changed. That 350 years of oppression will not just be forgotten and to expect so is again an idealistic and unrealistic notion.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Look, I just moved to a black neighborhood, and despite my education and my best efforts to shake the feeling, I still get subconsciously nervous when I see a scruffy looking guy in a hoodie or with dreadlocks walking around. Blacks have found it difficult to integrate into society because they're distrusted by whites on a subconscious level.

Around blacks, OV can't relax.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
A lot of stupid in that comment, but the stupidest is that this commenter has apparently forgotten that half of those 620,000 people were fighting against emancipation.
And the majority fighting for the Union weren't fighting for emancipation to give civil equality to blacks.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Black men kill each other more than anyone else (and their killing of each other exceeds the deaths of all other races...IIRC). A black man has more of a legitimate fear of another black man.
Are you saying black on black violent crime exceeds everyone else combined? If so, that's wrong.

Criminals usually target the communities they are in or around. Intra-racial crime happens much more than interracial crime, this includes homicides. So if you're white, be afraid of other white people, etc.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Either you are being sardonic and do know of some ethnicities without a single point of prosperity and perpetual slavery and discrimination until 50 years ago besides blacks, in which case I would love for you to list them, or you are conceding, in which case, I humbly accept your concession 🙂

I believe this one's mine...🙂

If by "concede" you mean i see no reason to have a circular argument with a closed minded person, then yeah.

90% of the white people i've ever known dont see the world in terms of black and white.
90% of the black people, ONLY see the world that way. You fall into that 90%.
Your loss.

Originally posted by riv6672
I believe this one's mine...🙂

If by "concede" you mean i see no reason to have a circular argument with a closed minded person, then yeah.

90% of the white people i've ever known dont see the world in terms of black and white.
90% of the black people, ONLY see the world that way. You fall into that 90%.
Your loss.

Those white people lied to you.

Look at how racist OV is.

^^^😆

Lol at this place for arguing race still. Who gives a **** anymore.

Before this thread, OV had me believing and I am pretty sure everyone else that he was this purist of race and skin color did not matter and thought I was racist. Then he moves into a black neighborhood and the truth comes out and he see's real life for what it is.

Its one thing to talk a game on the internet, its another to live it.

I applaud OV for his honesty..

Originally posted by riv6672
I believe this one's mine...🙂

If by "concede" you mean i see no reason to have a circular argument with a closed minded person, then yeah.

90% of the white people i've ever known dont see the world in terms of black and white.
90% of the black people, ONLY see the world that way. You fall into that 90%.
Your loss.

Again bud, it's easier for whites when they didn't have to deal with social segregation and could do whatever the constitution allowed. I'm sorry whites hammered into blacks for 350 years that there was a racial separation and obviously 50 years isn't enough to dissolve that mindset. Again, if you wanted blacks to view everything as egalitarian, whites should have taught us those equal values for 350 years instead of instilling us with a massive inferiority complex. I understand you don't understand being black, but try to be empathetic since it's sins of white ancestors who are primarily responsible for this.