Thing and Colossus vs. Thor w/o Mjolnir

Started by Gamma Burst4 pages

Thor is in another class here, and even though both together can give him a good fight, He wins it.

Originally posted by Gamma Burst
Thor is in another class here, and even though both together can give him a good fight, He wins it.
I have an issue of Hulk vs Thor from the early 90`s.In it Hulk says Thor not strong hammer is.So Thor throws the hammer far away,they then battle and Hulk slightly gets over on Thor(his face looks like ground meat).When Thor`s hammer comes back the Hulk leaves satisfied.And I am not biased I like both equally,Thor seems more powerful with his hammer.And Hulk seems to edge him out without the hammer,sound fair?Oh and by the way,Thor beats them both without much trouble!

Originally posted by zom1967
And Hulk seems to edge him out without the hammer,sound fair?Oh and by the way,Thor beats them both without much trouble!

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Sounds fair.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
I have a tool as well.

Rumor has it, it's more of an ANT-MAN sized tool though...

Team wins 7/10

After thinking a little harder I do think the team wins. Thing alone has defeated Namor and fought and held his own against the Hulk. Colossus went toe to toe with Gladiator, kayoed the Hulk, and dropped the Juggernaut. Give Thor the Mjolnir and it's a different story.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
After thinking a little harder I do think the team wins. Thing alone has defeated Namor and fought and held his own against the Hulk. Colossus went toe to toe with Gladiator, kayoed the Hulk, and dropped the Juggernaut. Give Thor the Mjolnir and it's a different story.

You just listed off a few of arguably their highest respective feats. If we do the same for Thor in such a skewed manner, he'd one-shot kill both.

A few details worth mentioning are for example like Colossus fighting a far weaker Gladiator (Who he lost to btw), he temporarily knocked out (Or stunned) an injured/weakened Hulk who in the same story when at 100% was no selling his punches and one-shotted him. Not even sure why knocking Juggernaut back counts as something worth mentioning.

And I have no idea why you'd bring up Ben Grimm's record against the Hulk as evidence in a thread where he's facing an elite class 100. Just poor form.

Knocking Juggernaut on his @ss is impressive, something Thor has never done iirc. Gladiator wasn't weak when he fought Colossus, unless you have some inside information. Colossus who wasn't messing around/pulling his punches kayoed the Hulk. Sorry but it happened.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Knocking Juggernaut on his @ss is impressive, something Thor has never done iirc. Gladiator wasn't weak when he fought Colossus, unless you have some inside information. Colossus who wasn't messing around/pulling his punches kayoed the Hulk. Sorry but it happened.

Disagree with all of this.

Seeing as Colossus was taking Gladiators punches in that fight and yet was ko'd by a falling building, I'd say that Gladiator was definitely not being written at his later levels.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Seeing as Colossus was taking Gladiators punches in that fight and yet was ko'd by a falling building, I'd say that Gladiator was definitely not being written at his later levels.
Looking at it that way neither was Colossus I suppose. Good call.

In all honesty I believe Thor wins this. He's much stronger than either and faster and more skilled. He can possibly use Thing as Mjolnir and bat Colossus away. Or just simply uppercut one of them far away and deal with the other. By the time the other gets back the first will be defeated or nearly defeated.

Actually Thor would be better to use Colossus as the Mjolnir and bat Thing away, just my opinion. Thor does have a one-shot win over Abomination to his credit.

Context to that fight.

Originally posted by carver9
Context to that fight.
I just saw the two panels. What context?

Originally posted by juggernaut74
I just saw the two panels. What context?

Abomination wasn't in his right mind, AND, it was a surprise attack. Thor even admits it.

BTW Gladiator was not far weaker when he fought Colossus. Colossus smashed him with this massive pillar and Kallark took it with a smile. I think Wonder Man was kayoed by a small chunch of concrete once before.

Not many characters can do that.

You're aware that Colossus got ko'd by a falling building, yet was able to take several hits from Gladiator...you are basically saying that Gladiator being below building level strength isn't an example of him being weaker than his later showings.

At which point, why is Colossus being able to fight him impressive?

Originally posted by Silent Master
You're aware that Colossus got ko'd by a falling building, yet was able to take several hits from Gladiator...you are basically saying that Gladiator being below building level strength isn't an example of him being weaker than his later showings.

At which point, why is Colossus being able to fight him impressive?

They were described as skycrapers, not mere buildings. The shockwaves from their punches caused the buildings to collapse.

It's still just a building, top tier characters like Thor and Superman can get hit by mountain busting hits and basically laugh it off. So either Gladiator was written as far weaker in that fight, or he isn't even close to being a top tier character.