Thing and Colossus vs. Thor w/o Mjolnir

Originally posted by Silent Master
It's still just a building, top tier characters like Thor and Superman can get hit by mountain busting hits and basically laugh it off. So either Gladiator was written as far weaker in that fight, or he isn't even close to being a top tier character.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
They were still massive buildings, and there was more than one of them. Gladiator has ben put down by less, Gambits exploding cards for example. The narration does not describe two weaklings fighting, the narration is pretty epic if you ask me.

Gladiator was mind controlled when hit by Gambit's cards and since his power level depends on his mental state, there is context to explain away the showing. Here, there is nothing to explain why he couldn't put down someone that was ko'd by a falling building.

You can call it impressive all you want, but if it happened to Superman/Thor/Captain Marvel/Hulk or any other elite top tier everyone would be calling it a low showing.

It was the entire deck spammed at point blank that put Glads down.

If I wanted to argue low showing I could argue Colossus being kayoed by a building falling on him.....but I'm not.

No, you're trying to spin a fight where Colossus was ko'd by a falling building as impressive.

It was.

I guess for someone like Colossus, being ko'd by a building is about as good as his feats get.

Aaaaand there it is!

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You just listed off a few of arguably their highest respective feats. If we do the same for Thor in such a skewed manner, he'd one-shot kill both.

A few details worth mentioning are for example like Colossus fighting a far weaker Gladiator (Who he lost to btw), he temporarily knocked out (Or stunned) an injured/weakened Hulk who in the same story when at 100% was no selling his punches and one-shotted him. Not even sure why knocking Juggernaut back counts as something worth mentioning.

And I have no idea why you'd bring up Ben Grimm's record against the Hulk as evidence in a thread where he's facing an elite class 100. Just poor form.

Ben has held his own against HULK dozen(s) of times and has indeed beaten him a small handful of times. He has beaten both Namor and Sasquatch 3 to 1 during their fights. Is undefeated against Wonderman, stalemated Hercules... etc.

THOR is going down

Thor wins.

Originally posted by Tony Stark
Ben has held his own against HULK dozen(s) of times and has indeed beaten him a small handful of times. He has beaten both Namor and Sasquatch 3 to 1 during their fights. Is undefeated against Wonderman, stalemated Hercules... etc.

THOR is going down

Thor crushes him like he did abomination

Thor wins but its not going to end in seconds. Thor could end this in five to ten mns at best

Originally posted by Raisen
Thor wins but its not going to end in seconds. Thor could end this in five to ten mns at best