Captain America and Winter Soldier vs Wolf Predator

The Xeno in AVP lifted a Predator in the air and held it there with no problem at all

I forgot about that.. another good example Juggs

To be fair, how heavy are preds and aliens anyway? I doubt they'd be much heavier than a motorcycle with 3-4 women sitting on it.

Originally posted by FrothByte
To be fair, how heavy are preds and aliens anyway? I doubt they'd be much heavier than a motorcycle with 3-4 women sitting on it.

Don't think you'll get a weight in a film. Might have something on wiki tho

Originally posted by Robtard
Nope.

Faster? I've never seen an Alien run like Cap did and that was him on an off day

More Agile? Nah. They have the advantage in tight corridors since they can use the walls as a means of travel, but out in the open, they're kind of just there

More durable? No way. Cap took a Chitauri rifle, all it did was a first degree burn. Then there's all those falls, hits, bullets and stabbings.

Stronger? No way. Cap has several strength feats that show us his power, the Xenos, not so much.

Natural weapons? Yes, definitely goes to the Xenos

Intelligence/Tactics? Def goes to Cap

So you see, Cap has many more advantages.

You should rewatch the movies then, in Alien in Resurrection a Xeno did some bullet dodging for example.

Lol wut? Aliens jump around and scale walls and shit all the time. Captain America is not on this level.

That all? An Alien survived getting submerged in molten metal.

Even Clone Ripley, who was no match for an Alien, had the strength to break and rip apart metal.

What's he gonna do with his intelligence in a flat arena?

Originally posted by FrothByte
To be fair, how heavy are preds and aliens anyway? I doubt they'd be much heavier than a motorcycle with 3-4 women sitting on it.

Yeah, but it did that with just it's tail. The leverage is completely different.

Ok just checked, Yautja are 330+ lbs. Xenomorphs (standard ones) are also around that weight.

So yeah, Cap did carry a heavier load over his head than either a Pred or Alien.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Ok just checked, Yautja are 330+ lbs. Xenomorphs (standard ones) are also around that weight.

So yeah, Cap did carry a heavier load over his head than either a Pred or Alien.

It's much easier to hold something over your head than to lift it the way that Alien did. Its outstretched tail must have been at least 6 feet long and it casually lifted a Predator with it.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Ok just checked, Yautja are 330+ lbs. Xenomorphs (standard ones) are also around that weight.

So yeah, Cap did carry a heavier load over his head than either a Pred or Alien.

That's assuming the motorcycle was real and not a prop(idk either way honestly). Also the Wolf was holding a Xeno in each hand as they were flailing and sturggling to get free. That means he outright overpowered them with utter ease with only one hand with his attention split.

Cap did bust the submarine window tho. And clubbed a guy who went flying like 20 feet in the air. Hard choice

Originally posted by juggerman
Don't think you'll get a weight in a film. Might have something on wiki tho

Couldn't find anything on Xeno's. But Predalien from Wiki weighs 1000 - 1800 pounds.

So lets say 1400 pounds (645 kg).

I think Captain America lifts a bike with two girls?

The bike he lifts apparently is a Harley Davidson 1942 WLA.

WLA = 549 pounds
Girls(x2) = ~260 pounds

= ~800 Pounds (367 kg)

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Assuming Predalien = Xenomorph = 1400 pounds (Two = 2800 pounds) (Excluding Xeno flailing movements)

Bike and two Girls = 800 pounds

LoL, no. A 5'7" 135lbs woman was able to effortlessly use a Xeno head (which is comparatively large to the body) as a shield; from the way she handled it, that head weighed maybe 20lbs, maybe

So I sincerely doubt a Xenos weighs over 200lbs in total. They seem to be composed of rather lightweight tissues

Originally posted by Placidity
Couldn't find anything on Xeno's. But Predalien from Wiki weighs 1000 - 1800 pounds.

So lets say 1400 pounds (645 kg).

I think Captain America lifts a bike with two girls?

The bike he lifts apparently is a Harley Davidson 1942 WLA.

WLA = 549 pounds
Girls(x2) = ~260 pounds

= ~800 Pounds (367 kg)

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Assuming Predalien = Xenomorph = 1400 pounds (Two = 2800 pounds) (Excluding Xeno flailing movements)

Bike and two Girls = 800 pounds

Why are you using a predalien and not a simple predator? Also, a predalian looked a lot more dense and quite bigger than the normal xenomorph. Predators from wiki are only said to be 330+ lbs.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Why are you using a predalien and not a simple predator? Also, a predalian looked a lot more dense and quite bigger than the normal xenomorph.

Why would I use a Predator when I'm trying to estimate the weight of a Xenomorph ?

But you are right, the weight is overstated, because I just found another wiki page with Xeno weight.

375 Pounds.

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Two Xenos = 750

Bike + 2 Girls = 800

Close. Not considering the manner each weight is lifted and motion.

I believe it was 3 girls. Bike + 3 girls = 940 lbs.

As for predator and alien, I do think the aliens are closer in size to predators instead of predaliens.

Anyway, I'm not trying to prove that Cap is stronger than an alien or predator. I'm just trying to prove that a predator or alien isn't that much stronger than Cap or Bucky.

Overpowering two Aliens who are resisting you and trying to kill you is a vastly more impressive than lifting a bike with girls on it. not only are they not struggling against you trying to break free but a bike is vastly easier to grip and handle. They really aren't comparable at all.. The wolf preds feats is decisively more impressive.

What strength feats or durability feats does PRED have above Bucky and Cap? If you guys recall Bucky and Cap have insane durability.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Overpowering two Aliens who are resisting you and trying to kill you is a vastly more impressive than lifting a bike with girls on it. not only are they not struggling against you trying to break free but a bike is vastly easier to grip and handle. They really aren't comparable at all.. The wolf preds feats is decisively more impressive.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Overpowering two Aliens who are resisting you and trying to kill you is a vastly more impressive than lifting a bike with girls on it. not only are they not struggling against you trying to break free but a bike is vastly easier to grip and handle. They really aren't comparable at all.. The wolf preds feats is decisively more impressive.

From a pure strength feat? Yeah sure, that's more impressive. But if we start utilizing all kinds of feats then Cap has more impressive ones. Like taking hits from Loki without sustaining broken bones. Or dropping from incredible heights into water. Etc.

Durability: Tanking hits from Loki, chitari laser fire. Going Hand 2 Hand with Aliens. Skydiving without parachute, being shot multiple times. Punched in the face repeatedly with a robotic arm.

Strength: Ripping Door off Car, holding a bike with 3 girls, lifting a steel frame. Punching and kicking strength with enough force to send Aliens and humans flying around, powering out of magnetic shield cuffs.

Feel free to add in if I missed anything.

Punching submarine window. And in that little clip from Age of Ultron, tearing a piece of log apart with his bare hands.