Can Batman defeat Superman without Kryptonite?

Started by -Pr-8 pages

Guys, (particularly star and stilt), cut the personal stuff out. This thread is barely hanging on as it is, and people aren't helping keep it open.

Originally posted by Star428
I'm doing what? Immature name calling? Whrere did I do that? Only thing I'm called him was an idiot after he insisted that this was my first forum to post on. Oh yeah, I also called him kid but that's because that's what I believe he is considering how he first replied to me. Tell me, [b]mate, what exactly am I doing that was wrong in your eyes? Placing him on ignore after he disrespected me by calling me some childish name? Is that the "wrong" you're referring to mate? LOL. If that's the case u have a strange idea of what a "wrong" is...mate. [/B]
Lol you get defensive too fast. And what's your problem with the word 'mate'? You're strange and should calm down.

In fact, getting offended by someone saying that you come from another forum is very childish if you ask me. Anyway, i'm done with this.

Originally posted by Star428
Batman may've achieved what he wanted but I'd hardly call that beating Superman since the only thing he did was run from him and never even scratched Clark even with kryptonite. In a game of chess Batman has a good chance of beating Superman but in a fight? No way.

I'm pretty sure several people were serious about Batman being able to beat Superman with prep even if Superman had equal prep. And Stiltman may've been joking about Batman w/prep being able to beat anyone short of TOAA but considering some of his other posts I've read before regarding Batman threads I still don't think he was joking about Bats being able to beat Superman.

You seem to think a technical win and a win that would matter under normal circumstances are the same thing. I straight-up said the fight is pretty irrelevant under most circumstances. The scenario would have to be similar for the HUSH fight to matter AT ALL.

You should read where it started with Stiltman, or at least as far back as I went before getting lazy. Including reading what he replied to.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=15063861#post15063837

Him and others were just joking around. Basically being a parody of even the Batman fanboys who do think Batman wins even without prep. Also, Stiltman was making a joke about "Bat-Cow" being "TOAA of the Batman family," not saying he could beat anybody short of TOAA with prep.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Guys, (particularly star and stilt), cut the personal stuff out. This thread is barely hanging on as it is, and people aren't helping keep it open.

I could see me derailing it, but I hope you didn't have me in mind for personal stuff.

If you didn't do anything wrong, you've nothing to worry about.

Originally posted by Delta1938
You seem to think a technical win and a win that would matter under normal circumstances are the same thing.

No, I know the difference. WW "beating" Superman in Sacrifice is a "technical win" too but she actually hurt Clark and even nearly decapitated him. Although I guess you could call the Hush instance a "technical win" it's not really the same thing, imo. Anyway, I don't want to argue semantic type stuff with you as I think it's pointless and I think we pretty much agree that Superman still came out of that so-called "fight" looking superior regardless of wether or not you call it a technical win for Batman so let's just drop that discussion.

You should read where it started with Stiltman, or at least as far back as I went before getting lazy. Including reading what he replied to.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=15063861#post15063837

Him and others were just joking around. Basically being a parody of even the Batman fanboys who do think Batman wins even without prep. Also, Stiltman was making a joke about "Bat-Cow" being "TOAA of the Batman family," not saying he could beat anybody short of TOAA with prep.

Yeah, I knew his comment had something to do with TOAA and I just didn't feel like going back and refreshing my memory as to his exact words. Regardless, he never should've called me "Starsie". This is all I'm going to say on the subject as I'm tired of arguing over insignificant crap.

Originally posted by -Pr-
If you didn't do anything wrong, you've nothing to worry about.

I don't think I did, but I only noticed Star and Stilt get personal, while you comment seemed like while they were the primary culprits, they weren't the only ones.

Originally posted by Star428
No, I know the difference. WW "beating" Superman in Sacrifice is a "technical win" too but she actually hurt Clark and even nearly decapitated him. Although I guess you could call the Hush instance a "technical win" it's not really the same thing, imo. Anyway, I don't want to argue semantic type stuff with you as I think it's pointless and I think we pretty much agree that Superman still came out of that so-called "fight" looking superior regardless of wether or not you call it a technical win for Batman so let's just drop that discussion.

If you're talking pure record, it counts. In debates that don't revolve around similar examples? Not so much.

Yeah, I knew his comment had something to do with TOAA and I just didn't feel like going back and refreshing my memory as to his exact words. Regardless, he never should've called me "Starsie". This is all I'm going to say on the subject as I'm tired of arguing over insignificant crap.

I really have a hard time thinking he was seriously arguing Batman. And I like the nickname "Starsie." 😄 But others have pointed-out, you are taking things too seriously. It's not like I'm in charge of you, but if you're getting this worked up over being called "Starsie" and whatnot, the Internet might not be for you.

I'm just making sure everyone is listening, is all.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Only with massive amounts of PIS/CIS
Originally posted by Inhuman
Batman punches Supermans head off his shoulders

It's more like Batman punches Superman and breaks his hand. Superman even says this to him after he punches him, he says next time Batman tries to hit him he will not roll with the punch that time and he will end up breaking his hand.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/40928/2560654-inspiration.jpg

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Originally posted by Star428
[B]No, I know the difference. WW "beating" Superman in Sacrifice is a "technical win" too but she actually hurt Clark and even nearly decapitated him. Although I guess you could call the Hush instance a "technical win" it's not really the same thing, imo. Anyway, I don't want to argue semantic type stuff with you as I think it's pointless and I think we pretty much agree that Superman still came out of that so-called "fight" looking superior regardless of wether or not you call it a technical win for Batman so let's just drop that discussion.

To be fair his fight with WW they had things happening such as...Superman stopping and specifically trying to use his hearing to find Wonder Woman, and yet she still somehow sneaks up on him. It makes no sense, she had no power to not be detected by super hearing or anything, and he was specifically using his hearing at that point too so you can't even say that maybe he wasn't concentrating hard enough or anything like that. It's a text book example of writing a character in a way that makes him look incredibly stupid.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Guys, (particularly star and stilt), cut the personal stuff out. This thread is barely hanging on as it is, and people aren't helping keep it open.

Okay, Pr.

Originally posted by Surtur
To be fair his fight with WW they had things happening such as...Superman stopping and specifically trying to use his hearing to find Wonder Woman, and yet she still somehow sneaks up on him. It makes no sense, she had no power to not be detected by super hearing or anything, and he was specifically using his hearing at that point too so you can't even say that maybe he wasn't concentrating hard enough or anything like that. It's a text book example of writing a character in a way that makes him look incredibly stupid.

His supersenses may've been dulled due to mind control. Just to be clear, despite WW's so-called "win" that fight actually proves that Superman is at least a tier above her. He was at a huge disadvantage because of MC and yet he still looked much better throughout the fight until the end when his throat was slashed with the tiara. If he hadn't been hallucinating he would've been able to dodge the tiara easily because he would expect it from WW but how often has he seen DD utilize a razor sharp magical item? Never.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Okay, Pr.

Reported.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Reported.

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Reported for reporting 😐

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Reported.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
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Reported for reporting 😐

Just reported both of you.

I reported your mom back when you were only dreaming about reporting.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I reported your mom back when you were only dreaming about reporting.

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Originally posted by Surtur
It's more like Batman punches Superman and breaks his hand. Superman even says this to him after he punches him, he says next time Batman tries to hit him he will not roll with the punch that time and he will end up breaking his hand.

Reported for lowballing batman