Ultimate Reed Richards vs Dr.Doom - Both with prep

Both have 1 month of prep. Who wins ?

Is Ultimate Reed supposed to be as smart as the 616 version?

Originally posted by Surtur
Is Ultimate Reed supposed to be as smart as the 616 version?

He's not. He explicitly had to go to 616 to steal tech from 616 Reed in order to stop Galactus.

Doom eats him alive.

Well yeah, if that is the case Doom wins easily.

Tbf, when 616 Reed first met Galactus he too needed stolen tech to drive him off.....

Ultimate Reed wins...

As per the Council of Reed arc, every version of Reed has defeated and enslaved every version of Doom across all of reality...

Ultimate Reed puts a dog collar around Dooms throat and forces Doom to acknowledge Reed as master:

How dare you, that's photoshop!!!! Doom's the smartest there is!!!

Originally posted by Reflassshh
How dare you, that's photoshop!!!! Doom's the smartest there is!!!

😉

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Ultimate Reed wins...

As per the Council of Reed arc, every version of Reed has defeated and enslaved every version of Doom across all of reality...

Ultimate Reed puts a dog collar around Dooms throat and forces Doom to acknowledge Reed as master:

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Poor Doom... that ownage is pretty bad. Not as bad as getting raped by a 2nd rate antman, but still.

When did Doom get beaten by Antman?

Originally posted by Golgo13
When did Doom get beaten by Antman?

Doom stole Watcher's power or something. Renewed his face, as he always does in such instances. Didn't stop Lang from verbally and physically owning him for, like, 20+ pages. Doom even gets tricked in the end into thinking he killed Valeria, which breaks what's left of him. That was a free bonus to the ownage, a mental fatality.

The writer must've really despised Doom.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
F4 quite recent title, I believe. Medusa, Scott Lang, She-Hulk and Miss Thing roster.

Doom stole Watcher's power or something. Renewed his face, as he always does in such instances. Didn't stop Lang from verbally and physically owning him for, like, 20+ pages. Doom even gets tricked in the end into thinking he killed Valeria, which breaks what's left of him. That was a free bonus to the ownage, a mental fatality.

The writer must've really despised Doom.

😂 Are you sure it wasn't a Doombot? Doom is supposedly unbeatable on these boards.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
F4 quite recent title, I believe. Medusa, Scott Lang, She-Hulk and Miss Thing roster.

Doom stole Watcher's power or something. Renewed his face, as he always does in such instances. Didn't stop Lang from verbally and physically owning him for, like, 20+ pages. Doom even gets tricked in the end into thinking he killed Valeria, which breaks what's left of him. That was a free bonus to the ownage, a mental fatality.

The writer must've really despised Doom.

Originally posted by Golgo13
😂 Are you sure it wasn't a Doombot? Doom is supposedly unbeatable on these boards.

I'm glad you asked.

Up.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Ultimate Reed wins...

As per the Council of Reed arc, every version of Reed has defeated and enslaved every version of Doom across all of reality...

Ultimate Reed puts a dog collar around Dooms throat and forces Doom to acknowledge Reed as master:

Well...maybe we will see that soon.

The Maker vs The Destroyer.

Sans the Rabum Alal stuff(because I don't even know what tier he'd be classified in, atm), Doom wins. However, Ult. Reed would present one hell of a f*cking challenge.

Originally posted by Glorificus
He's not. He explicitly had to go to 616 to steal tech from 616 Reed in order to stop Galactus.

Doom eats him alive.

Confirmation:
http://i.imgur.com/vknvjd1.jpg

And why wouldn't he? 616 Reed has obviously faced Galactus several times over the years, and has obviously gathered extensive intel on him. Conversely, Ult. Reed had never seen, or even heard of Galactus, until the events of Hunger and Cataclysm. Of course he'd want to know/learn everything about Galactus that he could, considering the threat he posed to the entire Ultimate-Universe. The plan(and tech) Ult. Reed used to banish Galactus to the N-Zone was all his, though.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Except Ult Reed wasn't even on the Council.

Originally posted by Galan007
Sans the Rabum Alal stuff, Doom likely wins. However, Ult. Reed would present one hell of a f*cking challenge.

Ult. Reed did not steal 'tech' from his 616 counterpart--he gathered information pertaining to Galactus:
http://i.imgur.com/Gqn0uh3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7rPuv9o.jpg

Confirmation:
http://i.imgur.com/vknvjd1.jpg

And why wouldn't he? 616 Reed has obviously faced Galactus several times over the years, and has obviously gathered extensive intel on him. Conversely, Ult. Reed had never seen, or even heard of Galactus, until the events of Hunger and Cataclysm. Of course he'd want to know/learn everything about Galactus that he could, considering the threat he posed to the entire Ultimate-Universe. The plan(and tech) Ult. Reed used to banish Galactus to the N-Zone was all his, though.

Which is surprising, given that we were shown a brief glimpse of 'The Council' during the final issue of The Ultimates:
http://i.imgur.com/tIm4e3y.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/SsLRZE4.jpg

I thought you said ultimate reed is the smartest being in comics. Currently.

Originally posted by Golgo13
I thought you said ultimate reed is the smartest being in comics. Currently.