Originally posted by Golgo13I believe he is(he's definitely in the top 5, imo.) However, he's not winning an intelligence-based, prepped feat-war against Doom--pretty much no character can. Especially when you also factor in the the haxxed magics and whatnot that Doom brings to the table.
I thought you said ultimate reed is the smartest being in comics. Currently.
Still, though: Doom would be in for the fight of his life.
Originally posted by Blair WindDoom's power ups are always quickly taken away or just forgotten soon after getting them.
Didn't Doom come back, also relatively recently (but before Rabum) as some supreme magic user with crazy amounts of power after some time away? What ever happened to that?
Marvel likes to keep me as their enemy.
Originally posted by eaebiakuya616 Reed is one of the only other characters that can potentially pull a win against Doom in a prep war--primarily due to the sheer number of feats at his disposal.
Even 616 Reed, Galan ?And Doom probably will win some high end prep feats soon...in the other hand, is possible the same happens to ultimate Reed.
Personally, though, I believe that Ult. Reed would do better against Doom than 616 Reed... But that's just me.
Originally posted by Blair WindAre you talking about the events of the Marquis of Death arc..?
Didn't Doom come back, also relatively recently (but before Rabum) as some supreme magic user with crazy amounts of power after some time away? What ever happened to that?
Sadly, nothing ever happened with that.
Originally posted by Blair WindMoD casting Doom millions of years into the past was briefly explored during Dark Avengers #176-177. Aside from that, Doom's touted 'MoD-upgrade' has been completely ignored.
Yeah, that. I just remember people making a big fuss about it when it happened. Did it just go away? Ignored?
^ Yeah, prior to Ult. Reed's evolution into "The Maker", he likely wasn't quite as smart as his 616 counterpart, but he was in the same overall tier, imo(he's got the feats to back that up.)
...Then he built 'The Dome'--and thanks to the temporal differences that exist inside it, over 1,000 years passed by in the span of a few standard weeks on earth. This is particularly important because Ult. Reed dedicated nearly all of that millennia inside The Dome solely to expanding/increasing his own intellect. Tack that onto the fact that he is also remorseless, and NOT afraid to slaughter billions of innocents if it means achieving his goals, and I definitely think he has the potential to be a more formidable opponent than 616 Reed. I doubt that will be a popular opinion, but whatevs. /shrug
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Except Ult Reed wasn't even on the Council. Nor did he prep with like every other Reed to come up with Doom enslaving tech.
Doesnt matter...
Ultimate Reed is smarter and better than Doom...
I repeat, Reed collars Doom and forces Doom to acknowledge Reed as his superior...
Originally posted by Galan007
^ Yeah, prior to Ult. Reed's evolution into "The Maker", he likely wasn't quite as smart as his 616 counterpart, but he was in the same overall tier, imo(he's got the feats to back that up.)...Then he built 'The Dome'--and thanks to the temporal differences that exist inside it, over [b]1,000 years
passed by in the span of a few standard weeks on earth. This is particularly important because Ult. Reed dedicated nearly all of that millennia inside The Dome solely to expanding/increasing his own intellect. Tack that onto the fact that he is also remorseless, and NOT afraid to slaughter billions of innocents if it means achieving his goals, and I definitely think he has the potential to be a more formidable opponent than 616 Reed. I doubt that will be a popular opinion, but whatevs. /shrug [/B]
Agreed.....