Originally posted by SamZED
👆 I enjoyed their chemistry. Didn't watch Star Trek. Thought it was a reboot, not a retcon?
It was retcon like DOFP. Time Travel changed the past so the future is all changed and open. But they did mention the words "Alternate reality". So many Star Trek fans are assuming the original Trek still exists as another reality. But I personally think the alternate reality they referred to was the changing timeline.
Although I really enjoyed both DOFP and the new Star Trek, I do agree that they should either do Pure Prequels (like X-Men: First Class) or Pure Reboots (like MOS or Batman Begins).
Because Time Travel retcons get caught between the confusing "Is this a Prequel or a Reboot" grey area. The new Terminator's also taking that route.
@Stilt That's a very Spider-man thing to say, you didn't like it because you're still struggling with your latent attraction to the character, it'll pass. Also if you can stomach one second of Tobey's Spider-man voice nothing should make you nauseous.
Must be that Mystique bullet scene, felt pretty rapey. Also your childhood should feel violated after watching DoFP. That counts as rape too.
Nobody cares what that loser's called, Stilt. Nobody cares.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERMaybe it works better for some than others. I'm biased, don't like retcons and time travel movies. DoFT has both. 🙁
It was retcon like DOFP. Time Travel changed the past so the future is all changed and open. But they did mention the words "Alternate reality". So many Star Trek fans are assuming the original Trek still exists as another reality. But I personally think the alternate reality they referred to was the changing timeline.Although I really enjoyed both DOFP and the new Star Trek, I do agree that they should either do Pure Prequels (like X-Men: First Class) or Pure Reboots (like MOS or Batman Begins).
Because Time Travel retcons get caught between the confusing "Is this a Prequel or a Reboot" grey area. The new Terminator's also taking that route.
Originally posted by SamZED
Are you ignoring me? 😒NEED. ATTENTION!!!
Goblin getting ko'd and sleeping through everything instead of getting punished for killing Stacey. Lame ass jokes, lame ass dialogues, lame ass cgi, lame ass everything. The movie was a disaster.
Tasm2 = IM3 = Batman and Robin. That bad, yes.
Superman Returns looks like a masterpiece compared to it.
Good article explaining why Marvel won't go for X-Men like they did for Spider-Man anytime soon:
http://blogs.houstonpress.com/artattack/2015/02/marvel_comic_book_movies_wolverine.php
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Good article explaining why Marvel won't go for X-Men like they did for Spider-Man anytime soon:http://blogs.houstonpress.com/artattack/2015/02/marvel_comic_book_movies_wolverine.php
MCU can go around this by just having a few mutants living among man kind: Wolverine, Apocalpyse, Xavier, Magneto, etc. in Phase 4 or 5. Have a Marvel event where the Power Gem or Reality Gem ripples throughout the Earth and activating the X gene latent in humans thanks to the Celestials. A revise House of M no more mutant deal. Have somebody like Apocalypse do it. As the world fills up with mutants, man kind becomes wary and fearful of all super heroes. Xavier forms the X-Men to fight for peace between the mutants and human. Magneto uses this opportunity to fight for mutant dominance. The Avengers still protect mankind but is less trusted by the population. This gives way to the Dark Reign type story line where Norman Obsorn and Hammer to over the police of the world.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
MCU can go around this by just having a few mutants living among man kind: Wolverine, Apocalpyse, Xavier, Magneto, etc.
Yeah something like that could work. Since they already have 2 (QS and SW). I just think it would be complicated introducing a whole race of mutants at this point. (The Inhumans are mostly in their own hidden city presumably).
You know David Koepp recently gave his ideas for the Spider-Man movies (how he wanted to do it) with different series of films with different continuities:
http://screenrant.com/spider-man-david-koepp-franchise-ideas/
I really think he's on to something, if the different superhero studios would pay attention to that idea.
Fox could begin a new X-Men continuity working with Marvel to take place in the MCU and call the new films something different like "Uncanny X-Men," whilst still carrying on the Hugh Jackman movies separately.
Similarly Sony could carry on with their new MCU Spider-Man calling it "Spectacular Spider-Man" or whatever, whilst simultaneously finishing off their TASM series with Garfield, and do their Sinister Six stuff in the TASM Universe (they already wasted a movie building that up).
I think that would really work for all the studios, and give Marvel all their own characters back to play with. And hey different continuities at the same time have often taken place in the comic world.
I guess anything's possible now after the Marvel/Sony deal. Feige's really made film history with that deal Imho.
Originally posted by Firefly218
As long as we're getting good movies from Fox, I'd prefer X-Men and MCU stay separate.
I don't mind that either tbh, because X-Men is such a Huge Universe in and of itself. They've actually got 3 X-Men related films out next year (Deadpool, Apocalypse and Gambit) and they can do all the crossovers they want between them. Not to mention they have Fantastic Four. Assuming they ever do anything good with that, they can cross that over with X-Men. So they have their own Marvel Universe to play with really.
But what do you think of the idea of making another X-Men Universe Fox can share with Marvel while carrying on the Singer series as well?
Originally posted by Firefly218
Spidey and MCU though, that's match just fits.
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Marvel's Poster Boy and Biggest Icon sat all alone with Sony was just wrong.