Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What's this red herring you are trying to throw my way?Let me rephrase - Ronan, in one hit, did more damage than all the other Annihilators combined. Including Gladiator, but also Annie, and Skrull.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111145037/3692563-2rr2fe9.jpg
The only thing Gladiator did against Black Dwarf was bust his mallet open, and looking at this he probably would've caved his head in. Don't see how what you said is relevant since for one, Ronan snuck attack him, and two, Gladiator didn't even punch him in the head. So all in all, your comparison was just bad. Throw up bad.
Originally posted by carver9
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111145037/3692563-2rr2fe9.jpgThe only thing Gladiator did against Black Dwarf was bust his mallet open, he probably would've caved his head in. Don't see how what you said is relevant since for one, Ronan snuck attack him, and two, Gladiator didn't even punch him in the head. So all in all, your comparison was just bad. Throw up bad.
Now you know how we all feel with you.
So you're saying Black Dwarf's head is somehow less durable than the rest of his body???
Because that is the implication of your argument.
Punch BD elsewhere on his body = BD will be fine.
Punch his head = Melonsplosion.
Lol also at a sneak attack - your clinging to the weirdest and slimmest of threads is laughable. So you're saying if BD had known, and braced his head, he WOULDN'T have melonsploded? Proof, please?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85I will do a carver post here on DS owing carver lol
Now you know how we all feel with you.So you're saying Black Dwarf's head is somehow less durable than the rest of his body???
Because that is the implication of your argument.
Punch BD elsewhere on his body = BD will be fine.
Punch his head = Melonsplosion.Lol also at a sneak attack - your clinging to the weirdest and slimmest of threads is laughable. So you're saying if BD had known, and braced his head, he WOULDN'T have melonsploded? Proof, please?
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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Now you know how we all feel with you.So you're saying Black Dwarf's head is somehow less durable than the rest of his body???
Because that is the implication of your argument.
Punch BD elsewhere on his body = BD will be fine.
Punch his head = Melonsplosion.Lol also at a sneak attack - your clinging to the weirdest and slimmest of threads is laughable. So you're saying if BD had known, and braced his head, he WOULDN'T have melonsploded? Proof, please?
It was a sneak attack as shown here...
Who else punched him though? Did Gladiator punch him for you to even come up with the assumptions you came up with? No, he did not. At least be consistent...you are one of the individuals I was debating with sometime back when Hulk koed Thor. You claimed it was a sneak attack. Like I've said, that scene is irrelevant here. Nice try though.
Gladiator wouldn't have exploded his head. Thanos knocked BD out with one punch and didn't explode him. If Ronan is hitting harder than a random Thanos hit then he's hitting harder than Glads.
Gladiator wouldn't have gotten the chance anyway since him being unable to do anything to BD except lie on the floor in agony kind of shows that. I kind of doubt he can explode the head of a guy who completely overpowered him to a point where he just lays down and screams
Originally posted by carver9
It was a sneak attack as shown here...Who else punched him though? Did Gladiator punch him for you to even come up with the assumptions you came up with? No, he did not. At least be consistent...you are one of the individuals I was debating with sometime back when Hulk koed Thor. You claimed it was a sneak attack. Like I've said, that scene is irrelevant here. Nice try though.
I am not and never have said it WASN'T a sneak attack.
I am just laughing at your assertion that BD being aware and prepping himself would have made ANY difference to his durability or the hardness of his skull.
Your assertion is essentially, oh, I read the other day that a guy had his skull crushed when an elephant sat on it.
But it was a sneak elephant. Had the guy known it was about to sit on his head, he would have totally resisted that elephant and supported it on his head.
A sneak KO is COMPLETELY different from having your noggin crushed.....
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I am not and never have said it WASN'T a sneak attack.I am just laughing at your assertion that BD being aware and prepping himself would have made ANY difference to his durability or the hardness of his skull.
Your assertion is essentially, oh, I read the other day that a guy had his skull crushed when an elephant sat on it.
But it was a sneak elephant. Had the guy known it was about to sit on his head, he would have totally resisted that elephant and supported it on his head.
A sneak KO is COMPLETELY different from having your noggin crushed.....
Lol...we are done.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Gladiator wouldn't have exploded his head. Thanos knocked BD out with one punch and didn't explode him. If Ronan is hitting harder than a random Thanos hit then he's hitting harder than Glads.Gladiator wouldn't have gotten the chance anyway since him being unable to do anything to BD except lie on the floor in agony kind of shows that. I kind of doubt he can explode the head of a guy who completely overpowered him to a point where he just lays down and screams
Thanos held back?
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...we are done.
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To be fair, I AM making an assumption that BD, like most Earth based animals, has a skull that's harder than the rest of his body, due to the bone there.
Agreed, carver, he could just as easily have a skull that's the texture of ripe watermelon, that he has to consciously tense in order to protect himself from hits. If you can sneak attack him, then you'd be able to catch him by surprise, before he has a chance to tense his skull up and harden it 👆
Of course, this tensing does not extend to the rest of his body, so if you were to punch him there, he'd be fine.
Originally posted by carver9If him not exploding his head is indictive of power then he certainly wasn't putting much effort into it.
Thanos held back?
Thanos took the same shot from Ronan to no effect at all. If Thanos would have hit himself with a huge cheapshot I have severe doubts he would have acted like he got hit by a flea.
Originally posted by carver9
@Sin...I always supported Blaastar, even before his fight with Hulk. I know of every last one of his appearances and I will share all of them with you all if this fight goes against him. I know little about cosmic characters but he is one of the characters I do know. I was literally the only one voting for him in the Blaastar vs Firestorm thread some yrs back.
Hulk is Hulk. His fist always get the job done and I wasn't surprised at the outcome since Hulk has already defeated him TWICE before their recent fight. One of those times he wrapped him up in freaking adamantium. Hulk doesn't belong here, Insane bringing him up is trolling and baiting. Titan is like a virus, teouble always follow him and that's all he did was bait you into it.
Oh ok. I like Blaastar too, he's just not the reason team one stomps
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
If him not exploding his head is indictive of power then he certainly wasn't putting much effort into it.Thanos took the same shot from Ronan to no effect at all. If Thanos would have hit himself with a huge cheapshot I have severe doubts he would have acted like he got hit by a flea.
That isn't proof that Thanos held back though...different writers.
Originally posted by carver9What is your point here? That Thanos went all out and as such Gladiator could easily replicate it?
That isn't proof that Thanos held back though...different writers.
Even following your different writers shit, Thanos's highest eclipses Ronan's best by far. Not only that but as I recall Thanos never charged his fist against BD. Then there's the part where he wanted him alive to guard his shit.
So yeah, I have my doubts Thanos put everything into an attack to knock out BD. If you take that to mean held back then so be it. It is still a hard hit regardless.
Like I said Thanos hit BD and his head didn't explode so we can then conclude he isn't made of squish. Now that could easily be explained as punishment, it's the only other thing to go off of besides his BP fight.
Ronan hits like a truck when he gets his shot. I don't see the issue here besides Dark trolling you by bringing this up. Just because he can do something doesn't mean Glads can. Hell the guy killed a Surfer level Skrull once.
We don't know if Thanos charged his fist or not. This is what we see.
http://i44.tinypic.com/2z892lw.jpg
The guy put his entire body into the punch. To each his own but that doesn't look anything like a holding back punch.