Those panels of Spiderman vs Spot seem like PIS to me. As Carver pointed out, does Spot have any superhuman strength or speed? If not, Spiderman could've crushed his arm in a split second, or webbed his whole body. But then, Spiderman is one of the biggest jobbers going. *sigh*
Basically, imho, it looks like an encounter to make the Spot look good.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85tbh, no human could have reacted to that punch from spot. It wasn't like it was telegraphed. spot was throwing the punch before it could be seen outside the portal. By the time his fist was outside the portal it had maximum speed to it. So Spidey probably had less that 5 thousandths of a second to react. But tbh, it looks as Spidey head was turned and didn't see the punch coming out initially. That would mean he had far less time to react.
Like I said, I won't argue it further - I just found it amusing that of all the Spideysense scans you could have used, you used that one. That's all.As for the WW/human one, make sure it is one that fits your point. I specifically chose the Spot's showings, as Spiderman himself specifically mentions that he cannot react in time due to the Spot negating his Spidey Sense.
So...not sure what your scans would show? Unless you have scans of a human negating WW's skills? Or something. Otherwise, you'd just be vomiting scans for no reason.
Originally posted by h1a8
tbh, no human could have reacted to that punch from spot. It wasn't like it was telegraphed. spot was throwing the punch before it could be seen outside the portal. By the time his fist was outside the portal it had maximum speed to it. So Spidey probably had less that 5 thousandths of a second to react. But tbh, it looks as Spidey head was turned and didn't see the punch coming out initially. That would mean he had far less time to react.
Hence why I also showed Spidey seeing all those mobsters getting killed, as Spidey is watching them. You even see the guy's knife being taken, then stabbing etc.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I already said yes I could - are you going to prove me wrong? Read my post carefully - you seem to make a habit of speed reading things and not understanding.DS fight in the snow said he 'may' be faster than her. Great proof. Which isn't the same as your assertion that he IS faster.
You can use whatever you want - I'm not even sure you know what you are doing, apart from trying to get one over me. You always do this, and it always ends badly for you.
I can easily prove you can't touch him since his Spider sense doesn't enhance his speed. It warns him if danger hut it doesn't have a thing to do with how fast he is.
Now let's post speed fts.
Here Spiderman blitz Carnage endowed with Surfer powers.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111138276/3512900-8536996260-feat1.jpg
Spiderman blitz a group of super humans.
Punch DD before he could react.
All of this is much faster than anything you could dream of doing. We are done here.
Originally posted by carver9
I can easily prove you can't touch him since his Spider sense doesn't enhance his speed. It warns him if danger hut it doesn't have a thing to do with how fast he is.Now let's post speed fts.
Here Spiderman blitz Carnage endowed with Surfer powers.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111138276/3512900-8536996260-feat1.jpg
Spiderman blitz a group of super humans.
Punch DD before he could react.
All of this is much faster than anything you could dream of doing. We are done here.
You haven't seen my speed feats doe 🙁
Originally posted by carver9
I can easily prove you can't touch him since his Spider sense doesn't enhance his speed. It warns him if danger hut it doesn't have a thing to do with how fast he is.Now let's post speed fts.
Here Spiderman blitz Carnage endowed with Surfer powers.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111138276/3512900-8536996260-feat1.jpg
Spiderman blitz a group of super humans.
Punch DD before he could react.
All of this is much faster than anything you could dream of doing. We are done here.
I despise that scan
Originally posted by Star428
Good point about Venom, h1a8. I forgot about the fact that SM's SS doesn't work around him so that proves SM is still much faster than any human even w/out his SS. That shuts down DarkSaint's ridiculous argument pretty well.
Not really.
My argument still stands.
Because, and get this: Spot still tagged him. It isn't an argument, it happened, on panel, in MULTIPLE canon comics.
Not to mention, Venom is SUPPOSED to be faster than Spidey. So Spidey tagging Venom is just as PIS as Spot tagging Spidey, surely?
If you don't want to be a hypocrite, that is.
Lol, you're terrible at this.
I don't get what does Spot have to do with anything? He tags Spider-man because he's a teleporter. The kind that can open/close portals behind you and teleport things so fast that a bunch of super humans standing in a circle won't even see what just happened in front of their eyes. Also the poor guy shows up like once every two decades so they've gotta establish him as some sort of threat for story's sake, especially if he's the only super villain in the story.
Keeping all that in mind... Spider-man has dodged teleporters before. Even teleporters with firearms. He's out reacted speedsters. Without his ss he's dodged bullets and explosions. Ss has been warning him of danger for years so Pete can get cocky and get cought off guard when it's suddenly compromised, doesn't change that he's fast enough to dodge bullets at point blank range after they're fired, move faster than ordinary human eye reacts and capable of seeing bullets move at slow motion. Regardless of the ss. That is how he's consistently portrayed. All that does not put him at WW level obviously. But he's not getting tagged by powerless humans unless some serious CIS/PIS is involved.
Originally posted by SamZED
I don't get what does Spot have to do with anything? He tags Spider-man because he's a teleporter. The kind that can open/close portals behind you and teleport things so fast that a bunch of super humans standing in a circle won't even see what just happened in front of their eyes. Also the poor guy shows up like once every two decades so they've gotta establish him as some sort of threat for story's sake, especially if he's the only super villain in the story.
Keeping all that in mind... Spider-man has dodged teleporters before. Even teleporters with firearms. He's out reacted speedsters. Without his ss he's dodged bullets and explosions. Ss has been warning him of danger for years so Pete can get cocky and get cought off guard when it's suddenly compromised, doesn't change that he's fast enough to dodge bullets at point blank range after they're fired, move faster than ordinary human eye reacts and capable of seeing bullets move at slow motion. Regardless of the ss. That is how he's consistently portrayed. All that does not put him at WW level obviously. But he's not getting tagged by powerless humans unless some serious CIS/PIS is involved.
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Originally posted by Digi
Lol. DS just has a hard-on for Spot. Pete has bullet-time feats with and without SS, including one where he dodges at close range after the gun is fired.We all know Diana wins this thread, but it's interesting seeing the divergent opinions on Spidey.
My passion was....turgid...after this thread.
But was still fun.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85actually Spidey has always been shown faster than Venom, even stated too.
Not really.My argument still stands.
Because, and get this: Spot still tagged him. It isn't an argument, it happened, on panel, in MULTIPLE canon comics.
Not to mention, Venom is SUPPOSED to be faster than Spidey. So Spidey tagging Venom is just as PIS as Spot tagging Spidey, surely?
If you don't want to be a hypocrite, that is.
Lol, you're terrible at this.
I already explained the spot showing earlier, proving that no human could have avoided being hit in that scenario.
