Originally posted by StiltmanFTW...
Parker has feats. Real feats. Thousands of them.Ares? Simply not impressive. Dumb. Slow. Underachiever.
Nobody hates Parker's ass as much as me on this site. I still doubt Ares could wreck bloodlusted SM.
What is your game here?
Originally posted by Sin I AMAres is not a top tier though.
This still waiting on the spidey supporters to post no plot driven wins over top tiers
Originally posted by Stoic
The scan isn't working. Is that the fight between Spiderman 2099 and Maestro? If so, does Spiderman 2099 have a spider sense? Maestro is also faster than Ares. The Hulk is exceptionally fast, and his AOE attacks are significantly more powerful. I understand what you are getting at, but you can't compare Maestro to Ares. Maestro makes Ares look like a light weight.
Yeah, its the Maestro and Spiderman 2099. Hell, I just read up on 2099 and he doesn't even have a spider sense. I guess i'll just sit here with some egg on my face and continue reading what everybody else has to say.
Still don't feel Spiderman can take Ares though.
Originally posted by Stoic
No. But he may if those punches in bunches began to add up in the neighborhood of a hundred or more. You can't nullify all of Spiderman's wins because of one showing that Ares had against Hercules. The many outweigh the few... or the one Captain 😄.
Lol. So if a kid's bigger, older brother can't hurt me, the kid himself is going to because his punches are going to add up?
Spidey has NEVER thrown 'hundreds or more' of punches, which is what you're thinking is what it'll take to take him down.
And it isn't a single showing.
There are scans of Ares riding a nuke (or at least, a bunker buster) into battle. Crashing the Quinjet and jumping out, ready to fight. Not being KOed by Ultron's lightning. Not being KOed by Sentry (until he got WTFstomped lol). Taking shots from Skaar. One shotting Wolverine (who was of the opinion the fight would take a looong time). Tanking Rhodey's full armament. fighting Mikaboshi (and hurting her/him with his axe, which is standard equipment)
So no, I am NOT outweighing Spiderman's showings with Ares' showings. I am outweighing....well, whatever low showings you might be thinking of Ares, with Ares' higher showings.
Spidey has not only hurt top tiers on multiple occasions but most importantly, he has strength feats outside of those to support those showings.
So to believe that Spidey won't affect Ares significantly (especially bloodlusted) is borderline retarded.
With that said, Spidey has many options with his webbing. He can blind Ares, grab Ares legs and swing him against shit, web his body up to slow him down further, etc. Spidey has king fu skills which amplify his SS and gives him combat skills. But most importantly, Spidey has precog SS and speed to not even be hit by Ares. Ares would appear as a slow moving turtle to Spidey AND his attacks will be known before they are launched. Imagine knowing when a turtle is about to walk BEFORE it walks.
Originally posted by h1a8
Spidey has not only hurt top tiers on multiple occasions but most importantly, he has strength feats outside of those to support those showings.
So to believe that Spidey won't affect Ares significantly (especially bloodlusted) is borderline retarded.With that said, Spidey has many options with his webbing. He can blind Ares, grab Ares legs and swing him against shit, web his body up to slow him down further, etc. Spidey has king fu skills which amplify his SS and gives him combat skills. But most importantly, Spidey has precog SS and speed to not even be hit by Ares. Ares would appear as a slow moving turtle to Spidey AND his attacks will be known before they are launched. Imagine knowing when a turtle is about to walk BEFORE it walks.
Ares has the durability feats to negate those, however. He tanked multiple, multiple, bloodlusted Herc punches.
Have you forgotten Ares' Planck feats? I mentioned them specifically for you, as you love using them for Dr. M.
Originally posted by h1a8
Spidey has not only hurt top tiers on multiple occasions but most importantly, he has strength feats outside of those to support those showings.
So to believe that Spidey won't affect Ares significantly (especially bloodlusted) is borderline retarded.With that said, Spidey has many options with his webbing. He can blind Ares, grab Ares legs and swing him against shit, web his body up to slow him down further, etc. Spidey has king fu skills which amplify his SS and gives him combat skills. But most importantly, Spidey has precog SS and speed to not even be hit by Ares. Ares would appear as a slow moving turtle to Spidey AND his attacks will be known before they are launched. Imagine knowing when a turtle is about to walk BEFORE it walks.
True. He did support a freaking building.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85People keep using Tank like it means something. What the hell does Tank mean? Does it mean "no sold" or "not affected by" or simply "not koed or killed by".
Ares has the durability feats to negate those, however. He tanked multiple, multiple, bloodlusted Herc punches.Have you forgotten Ares' Planck feats? I mentioned them specifically for you, as you love using them for Dr. M.
Ares Planck feat had more or less to do with his Godly ability to not be affected by time altering, and thus the feat wasn't due to his reflexes or natural ability to always see reality at those speeds.
Originally posted by h1a8
People keep using Tank like it means something. What the hell does Tank mean? Does it mean "no sold" or "not affected by" or simply "not koed or killed by".Ares Planck feat had more or less to do with his Godly ability to not be affected by time altering, and thus the feat wasn't due to his reflexes or natural ability to always see reality at those speeds.
Check my scans out. I will repost them here for your edification.
Short synopsis: Hercules swings him into a missile, which explodes. He is unphased, even displaying sufficient alacrity to seize andother missile out of the air, and throw it into Herc's face. With a pithy one-liner. Herc continues smashing Ares, hitting him 14 times through the Helicarrier. Ares just picks him up, and throws him (in the 4th panel, 3rd scan). When I used it, I meant that he was not affected by it. Bloodied, yes, but still having the presence of mind to catch missiles out of the air, catch Herc etc.
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No selling would be someone like War MAchine, who had been unloading everything at him at point blank range.:
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If he was not being KOed, I'd use his fight against Sentry who was Voiding out. So bloodied, but still talking and fighting back(until he was WTFStomped):
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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol. So if a kid's bigger, older brother can't hurt me, the kid himself is going to because his punches are going to add up?Spidey has NEVER thrown 'hundreds or more' of punches, which is what you're thinking is what it'll take to take him down.
And it isn't a single showing.
There are scans of Ares riding a nuke (or at least, a bunker buster) into battle. Crashing the Quinjet and jumping out, ready to fight. Not being KOed by Ultron's lightning. Not being KOed by Sentry (until he got WTFstomped lol). Taking shots from Skaar. One shotting Wolverine (who was of the opinion the fight would take a looong time). Tanking Rhodey's full armament. fighting Mikaboshi (and hurting her/him with his axe, which is standard equipment)
So no, I am NOT outweighing Spiderman's showings with Ares' showings. I am outweighing....well, whatever low showings you might be thinking of Ares, with Ares' higher showings.
I never said anything about Ares low showing now did I? I never once low balled Ares, but I can't dismiss that Spiderman has hurt guys that could do everything that you said that Ares has done. Creel has given the Hulk a fight, and the Hulk would beat the crap out of Ares as we all know. I also acknowledged that Ares is a superior specimen in comparison to Peter. Spiderman has gone against Namor and he did incredibly considering being much weaker than Namor. Namor also felt his blows like Creel, Titania, and Firelord.
I am hoping that my bringing up Firelord does not make people feel the need to say that Firelord could have used his exotic powers against Peter. I realize that he could have finished Spiderman the moment the battle began. This is not my point. My point in bringin him up, is that he is physically comparable to Ares, and Spiderman hurt him with a continuous stream of punches in bunches. Not, (please pay attention) Not because Firelord could have ended it, but again because Spiderman is able to hurt characters above his weight class. You can lift over 35lbs I hope? But if I threw 35lbs into the back of your head at 70 MPH it would probably kill you.
Originally posted by tkitna
Yeah, its the Maestro and Spiderman 2099. Hell, I just read up on 2099 and he doesn't even have a spider sense. I guess i'll just sit here with some egg on my face and continue reading what everybody else has to say.Still don't feel Spiderman can take Ares though.
Don't worry about that crap brother, I used to think that he had a spider sense as well, until Samzed pointed it out in one of his posts. When in doubt about the Spider people call Sam.
