Blade vs. Captain America (Wilson)

Started by juggernaut743 pages

Blade is above the average vampire by a large margin anyways and we've seen Cap struggle with a weakened vampire.

Cap may have more showings due to being a more mainstream character, but that doesn't discount Blade's feats considering most of them are high end and put him in a level that can handle a guy like Cap when his "jobber aura" is turned off like it usually is in a forum fight.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
[B]Blade is above the average vampire by a large margin

Couldnt overpower wolverine, who by showings is arguably Caps physical equal. Im not intending to ABC here but, context means alot. Cap has a documented history of taking it to high powered super heroes. What is the average strength of a regular vampire? Deadpool level? spiderman level? Luke Cage level? And strength isnt always the factor anyway, Cap isnt beating Hulk in an arm wrestling contest but weve seen him put him on his arse all the same.

^Wolverine Cap's physical equal?

no.

Originally posted by Juk3n
Couldnt overpower wolverine, who by showings is arguably Caps physical equal. Im not intending to ABC here but, context means alot. Cap has a documented history of taking it to high powered super heroes. What is the average strength of a regular vampire? Deadpool level? spiderman level? Luke Cage level? And strength isnt always the factor anyway, Cap isnt beating Hulk in an arm wrestling contest but weve seen him put him on his arse all the same.

everybody so quick to point out pis for batman but when a guy like cap knocks hulk on his ass its just taken as is when bats and cap are very similar in physical stats, all you hypocrites need to wake up and stop hating, start realizing that most of cpas feats are for the story thats being told, nothing more

Originally posted by relentless1
everybody so quick to point out pis for batman but when a guy like cap knocks hulk on his ass its just taken as is when bats and cap are very similar in physical stats, all you hypocrites need to wake up and stop hating, start realizing that most of cpas feats are for the story thats being told, nothing more

Way to miss my point.

Let me clarify, in this thread we've heard "Blade is stronger than most high end vamps"

Blade couldn't overpower Wolverine.

Vampire strength levels are inconsistent and difficult to gauge in respect to the rest of the MU. So using the argument "Blade is physically above Cap because hes a vampire doesnt qualify the statement as true because...

Blade couldn't overpower wolverine.

Cap couldn't overpower Baron Blood, Blade overpowered Deacon Frost(who is a high end vampire).

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Cap couldn't overpower Baron Blood, Blade overpowered Deacon Frost(who is a high end vampire).

Blade over powered his own foe in his own book *gasp

I jest.

How strong is Deacon? How strong is a 'high end vampire'?

LoM, where are you when you are needed?

Originally posted by Juk3n
Blade over powered his own foe in his own book *gasp

I jest.

How strong is Deacon? How strong is a 'high end vampire'?

It wasn't in his book, it was the most recent Tomb of Dracula.

I don't know how strong Frost is but Blade overpowered him physically(scan in respect thread). Cap however couldn't overpower a weakened vampire who is lower on the food chain.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
It wasn't in his book, it was the most recent Tomb of Dracula.

I don't know how strong Frost is but Blade overpowered him physically(scan in respect thread). Cap however couldn't overpower a weakened vampire who is lower on the food chain.

Ive seen Frank Castle fight daredevil evenly. Daredevil drop wolverine like a sack of tatoes. Wolverine fight omega-red for 18 hours straight. Frank Castle cant drop wolverine for anything like a majority. Its about consistency.

Have we seen Cap defeat stronger opponents than himself?

Who were they?

How do they physically compare to Baron Blood?

All ive got so far is one strong vampire defeated another strong vampire. And no ones said how strong a vampire is aside from that time a vampire got the better of steve rogers. Well Wolverines beaten Blade and Caps beaten wolverine so neener neener. Seriously lets talk numbers and consistency or just dont talk.

I'm not saying Blade wins a fight. Just that he's easily as strong as Cap if not stronger.

Originally posted by Juk3n
Couldnt overpower wolverine, who by showings is arguably Caps physical equal. Im not intending to ABC here but, context means alot. Cap has a documented history of taking it to high powered super heroes. What is the average strength of a regular vampire? Deadpool level? spiderman level? Luke Cage level? And strength isnt always the factor anyway, Cap isnt beating Hulk in an arm wrestling contest but weve seen him put him on his arse all the same.
He didn't NOT overpower Wolverine. He wanted to use the vial.

We're not quantifying the strength of a base level vampire, that varies like wild. The general point is that feats performed against generic vampires (and in gischler's stories, depends on the sect) are more impressive than feats performed against generic ninjas or soldiers.

Originally posted by Juk3n
Blade over powered his own foe in his own book *gasp

I jest.

How strong is Deacon? How strong is a 'high end vampire'?

A high end vampire is usually bullet proof/bullet timer. Usually dispatches heroes easily. Deacon Frost is nearly Dracula level.

Originally posted by Juk3n
Ive seen Frank Castle fight daredevil evenly. Daredevil drop wolverine like a sack of tatoes. Wolverine fight omega-red for 18 hours straight. Frank Castle cant drop wolverine for anything like a majority. Its about consistency.

Have we seen Cap defeat stronger opponents than himself?

Who were they?

How do they physically compare to Baron Blood?

All ive got so far is one strong vampire defeated another strong vampire. And no ones said how strong a vampire is aside from that time a vampire got the better of steve rogers. Well Wolverines beaten Blade and Caps beaten wolverine so neener neener. Seriously lets talk numbers and consistency or just dont talk.

Wolverine's never beaten Blade. Blade HAS beaten a vampire lord Wolverine before easily.

Cap is stronger than Blade. Don't be silly by using this ABC comparison.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Cap is stronger than Blade. .

😂

dont be daft, Blade is a tonner, Cap is an enhanced human; less tha half of that so give your head a shake before you speak bud

Originally posted by relentless1
😂

dont be daft, Blade is a tonner, Cap is an enhanced human; less tha half of that so give your head a shake before you speak bud


Wut? Are we counting out years worth of feats because of the description of Cap's powers?

facepalm

feats = PIS most of the time, esopecially for somebody like Cap

So just because you don't like it, it is PIS? Yeah, that's not gonna work.