Originally posted by Kazenji
well to some of the GA, Tobey Maguire version is the definitive version.
And that's kinda the problem when it comes to having different variations of characters. Usually whenever someone gets introduced to a comic character via a particular cartoon or a movie, they'll hold that to such a high standard that nothing else gets a chance to be better or even just as good. They seem to think that those cartoons/movies are the definitive versions of the stories and characters and should override any other interpretations. Rather than judging a new version on it's own merits, they try to compare just about everything to a previous version. And for the most part it's people that have never even touched a comic book.
People have the idea that Raimi and Maguire are the be all and end all of Spider-man. To this day, there are still people asking for them to come back even though Spider-man 3 came out ten years ago and both have moved on.
Originally posted by Kazenji
Happens alot with other adaptations too.
I know that. I remember it happening with Man Of Steel as well. Now that movie was by no means perfect. It did have flaws. But a lot of the reviews I read just kept trying to compare it to the Donner/Reeve films. They pretty much just wanted Superman Returns 2.
If every new reboot/cartoon was just going to be a carbon copy of an older one, then what would be the point in watching?
Originally posted by Psychotron
Well, that's because no one has surpassed Spider-man 2 yet.
Who cares. Tobey's Spider-Man was hardly quintessential. He was missing the funny one-liners, which I doubt Tobey could have pulled off anyway. He mumbles too much.
Garfield was great as Spidey, but a bit too cool as Parker.
Holland seems to have the balance right.
As for surpassing SM2, it's the start of a new trilogy so they have time. For now being the 2nd best Spidey film would be a great start.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Who cares. Tobey's Spider-Man was hardly quintessential. He was missing the funny one-liners, which I doubt Tobey could have pulled off anyway. He mumbles too much.Garfield was great as Spidey, but a bit too cool as Parker.
Holland seems to have the balance right.
As for surpassing SM2, it's the start of a new trilogy so they have time. For now being the 2nd best Spidey film would be a great start.
The point is that people consider Tobey the quintessential Spider-man because he was in the movey the liked the most. If Homecoming ends up being superior to SM2 then Holland will be the "definitive" Spider-man for general audiences.
I disagree about Garfield and Holland. Garfield came off as a prick in and out of costume, he was too skinny, and his head was too big. Holland is just too childish for me. It's like ever since Ultimate Spider-man Peter just has to be a kid for some reason, even though 99% of his comics, including his best stories, his iconic supporting cast, etc. take place in his college years and beyond. Hell, the comic version is pushing 30 at this point. I mean, does anyone really want to watch The O.C. - Marvel Edition?
Originally posted by Darth Thor
One thing I did like about Tobey's was the body transformation from skinny to muscular after getting his powers.But the crying. So much crying.
He was the only decent looking Peter, I guess.
Eh, I never really paid attention to that as a kid. I mean, I get it in SM when Ben died. He would have to be a sociopath not to cry in that moment. I don't remember him crying in SM2, and SM3 doesn't count.