Originally posted by Arachnid1
Spock vs Baleman? Spock wtf stomps. He'd phuck up Baleman and Bane at the same time.This is a dude who fought Khan almost equally. He knows how to fight, and his race is 3 (or was it 5?) times stronger than a normal human. Don't know how anybody is supporting Batman.
Klingons are about x2
Vulcans are x3
Augments(Khan) are x5
Originally posted by KingD19How strong would a human/vulcan be though?
Let me explain it for you.Romulans and Vulcans(Spock's race) are genetic cousins and are on average 2-3x stronger than a human, and that's just on average. It's not taking into account if a Vulcan was ripped like Brock Lesnar or something.
Khan was genetically engineered and was 5x stronger than a human. Spock was fighting him for a pretty decent amount of time and actually made Khan work for his win. Compare that to Kirk, a decently strong guy from constant exercise, training, and fighting. And probably a bit stronger than people in our day and age due to advances in science and medicine. Kirk got like 15 free face shots and he put his all into every single one. Khan didn't even flinch.
If you think Bane is stronger than Spock, put him in that fist fight with Khan and tell me how good you think he does.
Originally posted by Mindset
How strong would a human/vulcan be though?
Considering how easily he beat down Kirk(just as easy if not easier than the Romulan crew), and how he was able to hold his own against Khan for a while, and his incredibly high intelligence and logical thinking, Spock is pretty much 100% Vulcan physically. His human half seems to be more emotional than anything.
Originally posted by RobtardI thought that was just because he couldn't control his emotions since he was half human, not that he was actually stronger.
Physically, Spock is considered full Vulcan, despite being a filthy alien half-breedRemember in the first flick when he lowered the boom on that bratty Vulcan kid who called his mother a whore?
Also, he is just a good martial artist.
Originally posted by KingD19Spock would be stronger than Kirk and he has had MA training since he was a kid. So of course he'd beat him, he'd also fight better than a crew of Romulan miners.
Considering how easily he beat down Kirk(just as easy if not easier than the Romulan crew), and how he was able to hold his own against Khan for a while, and his incredibly high intelligence and logical thinking, Spock is pretty much 100% Vulcan physically. His human half seems to be more emotional than anything.
We know he has superior strength to humans, but we don't really have a gauge of how a full Vulcan with similar training would compare in those scenarios.
Originally posted by Mindset
I thought that was just because he couldn't control his emotions since he was half human, not that he was actually stronger.Also, he is just a good martial artist.
He's considered full Vulcan in stats since ST:TOS, but the butt-rage likely helped the ass-kicking along in that scenario
Originally posted by Mindset
Spock would be stronger than Kirk and he has had MA training since he was a kid. So of course he'd beat him, he'd also fight better than a crew of Romulan miners.We know he has superior strength to humans, but we don't really have a gauge of how a full Vulcan with similar training would compare in those scenarios.
The beating he gave Kirk indicated his skill helped but was unnecessary. He could eat Kirk's punches all day like the Romulans did. But he beat him down with raw strength.
But considering as I said he fought Khan and made him work for the win when Khan dominated a full crew of elite Klingons, his strength has to be full Vulcan. Anything less and he wouldn't have done as much damage or caused as much trouble as he did.
Originally posted by Robtard👆
He's considered full Vulcan in stats since ST:TOS, but the butt-rage likely helped the ass-kicking along in that scenario
Originally posted by KingD19Khan was beating 7 shades of shit out of Spock. Spock only hurt Khan with the death grip and after Khan was shot about a dozen times from a phaser and hit a couple times from that metal piece of the ship.
The beating he gave Kirk indicated his skill helped but was unnecessary. He could eat Kirk's punches all day like the Romulans did. But he beat him down with raw strength.But considering as I said he fought Khan and made him work for the win when Khan dominated a full crew of elite Klingons, his strength has to be full Vulcan. Anything less and he wouldn't have done as much damage or caused as much trouble as he did.
Khan didn't fight the Klingons in hth from what I remember.
Anyway, ST:TOS has him listed as full Vulcan according to Rob.
Originally posted by Dreampanther
Maybe we should ask Scoobless for a ruling? If it's the last Batman movie with Christian Bale, I am more than happy to retire from the field since I stopped caring about him after the second movie with whatever-his-name was.If it's the best of Batman from all his movies, including the animated ones, Spock is completely out of his depth, as I would be more than happy to prove.
When I made the match I had the latest live action movies in mind.
Assault on Arkham is a cool animated movie, but cartoon/comic Batman is constantly doing things no "normal" human has any business doing.
Originally posted by Scoobless
When I made the match I had the latest live action movies in mind.Assault on Arkham is a cool animated movie, but cartoon/comic Batman is constantly doing things no "normal" human has any business doing.
Cheers, thanks Scoobless! As I promised, that's me out. I am always happy to enjoy a good debate about Batman, but I lost interest in Christopher Nolan's version about halfway through the second movie.
Originally posted by Dreampanther
Cheers, thanks Scoobless! As I promised, that's me out. I am always happy to enjoy a good debate about Batman, but I lost interest in Christopher Nolan's version about halfway through the second movie.
Really? Most people loved that movie (I still prefer Batman Begins)
Originally posted by Scoobless
Really? Most people loved that movie (I still prefer Batman Begins)
Yup. Funny enough, Batman Begins is probably also my favourite live-action Batman movie (although I still have a soft spot for the Michael Keaton / Jack Nicholson one). I am probably the one of my friends who doesn't like Christopher Nolan's movies, nor did I like Heath Ledger's portrayal of The Joker. I just kept thinking: "But that's not The Joker!"
Believe me, it has caused me an endless amount of arguments, but what can I say?
All I know is if it's a Woody Allen, Wes Anderson or a Christopher Nolan movie, I'm probably not going to enjoy watching it.
That's why I'm always torn between Batman Begins and Burton's Batman. Batman Begins is darker, edgier, grim with great action. Burton's Batman is fun, funny, even a bit camp with a great soundtrack. Both are great films and good entertainment.
I should stop posting when I am half asleep. Didn't even notice mention of the tricorder. Only saw the phaser. That neutralises any stealth Bats has. So Spock finds Bats and proceeds to beat the living shit out of him.
Spock and Khan both perform feats that are clearly superhuman. An example I can think of, off the top of my head, are the "super" jumps they both do to get onto that one transport platform during the final chase/fight. They both catch way more air than any humans could manage.