Hiei (YYH) VS Kimimaro (Naruto)

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Hiei (YYH) VS Kimimaro (Naruto)

Can the master of the Jagan eye take down the cursed Kimimaro?

S-Class Hiei used Dragon of the Darkness Flame. /thread

hei is waaaaaaaay to storng for kimmimaro

I think S class demons were stated planet busters and life wipers

They could do extreme damage yes. A low level S-Class could devastate the planet. It was also stated a lower level S-Class could effortlessly defeat 500 A-Class at once and destroy the planet. How much of that is hyperbole I don't know but they didn't seem to be trying to exaggerate or anything. And they were so strong they couldn't pass through the barrier between Earth and the Demon Realm. Also Hiei by the end of the series was a near match for Mukuro, one of the Three Kings.

People still believe YYH S Class demons can destroy the planet, which is based of no feats whatsoever and has no precedent, man this is 2006 again, but at least there's no "Raizen's stomach has infinite power" claims

That said, pretty sure YYH characters still stomp anything below Nardo god tiers so, Hiei wins handily

Though I suppose it's refreshing from all the DBZ vs HST threads

S-Class Hiei is way too overkill for Kimimaro. He could just decapitate him before he can even move a limb or shatter him with a punch. He doesn't even need to use the Jaou Ensatsu Kokuryuuha on that level. Even Dark Tournament level Hiei is too much for Kimimaro's bony ass due to his speed, aura that can melt steel, and the dragon was spanning multiple city blocks in attack range. Kimimaro only has hope dealing with Spirit Detective and Saint Beast Hiei and even then Saint Beast Hiei might be too fast for him to deal with.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
People still believe YYH S Class demons can destroy the planet, which is based of no feats whatsoever and has no precedent, man this is 2006 again, but at least there's no "Raizen's stomach has infinite power" claims

That said, pretty sure YYH characters still stomp anything below Nardo god tiers so, Hiei wins handily

Though I suppose it's refreshing from all the DBZ vs HST threads

Yeah, I don't buy the planet busting claims either. Country busting is probably the highest YYH can achieve.

And it's indeed refreshing from the DBZ vs. HST threads. A lot of posters really need to broaden their horizons.

Early DT Hiei is probably the weakest version that can win this

Kimimaro is weaksauce.

So in the context of Hiei/Yusuke/Kuwabara/Kurama, where would they stack up tier-wise against Naruto characters? Bleach characters?

Originally posted by StealthRanger
People still believe YYH S Class demons can destroy the planet, which is based of no feats whatsoever and has no precedent, man this is 2006 again, but at least there's no "Raizen's stomach has infinite power" claims

That said, pretty sure YYH characters still stomp anything below Nardo god tiers so, Hiei wins handily

Though I suppose it's refreshing from all the DBZ vs HST threads

I don't believe I said anything about Raizen's stomach, though it is impressive. I'm just going off and Genkai and Sensui's statements respectively. Not to mention Koenma's father is a stated continent buster and he's only A class. In my mind, them having to fight in the demon world thereafter makes sense.

Yeah, this fight is utterly retarded.

Hiei might not be a planet buster, which no one in YYH is going by feats, but he doesn't need to be a town buster to kill Kimimaro like he's nothing.

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I dunno, wasn't Kimmimaro at his peak supposed to be Orochimaru level? Not that I think he could contend with a planetary-level fighter, but cut him some slack. 😛

Originally posted by NewGuy01
I dunno, wasn't Kimmimaro at his peak supposed to be Orochimaru level? Not that I think he could contend with a planetary-level fighter, but cut him some slack. 😛

I don't think Orochimaru level, but probably early post-skip Sasuke level.

Originally posted by Quincy
So in the context of Hiei/Yusuke/Kuwabara/Kurama, where would they stack up tier-wise against Naruto characters? Bleach characters?

They are below Naruto's god tiers but they are above anyone in Bleach.

I will note that YYH doesn't exactly imply planet busting in the 'in a single attack' sense often meant.

Class Bs are strong enough to devastate a city. Class As a country. So I figure what it means with class S level people is they're planet-threatening in the 'they could go around and destroy every city and nation and nothing could stop them.'

Like, if you classed dragonball characters in the YYH method, Nappa and Raditz would likely be S-class.

Originally posted by Q99
I don't think Orochimaru level, but probably early post-skip Sasuke level.

Post-skip Sasuke is Orochimaru level. 😛

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Post-skip Sasuke is Orochimaru level. 😛

In my view, Orochimaru *when healthy* would still has an edge on him until he got the snake jutsu. Then he's Orochimaru level.

Kimimaro is strong, but not varied.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
I dunno, wasn't Kimmimaro at his peak supposed to be Orochimaru level? Not that I think he could contend with a planetary-level fighter, but cut him some slack. 😛

Um, no.

He was stronger than anyone in the Sound four, but he wasn't anywhere near as strong as Orochimaru.

And what do you mean Kimmimaro at his peak? He was at his peak when he lost to part 1 Gaara and Lee. Sure, he died because of a heart disease, but we saw that he wasn't debilitated by it. It just led to his heart stopping right before he got to kill Gaara.

Kimimaro was put on Jugo's level in the anime. That's weak sauce. Especially to Orochimaru.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Post-skip Sasuke is Orochimaru level. 😛

Um, no, he's not. He killed Orochimaru because he was severely weakened by his illness or whatever. Sasuke himself specifically stated to Karin that he would have had no chance against him otherwise.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Um, no.

He was stronger than anyone in the Sound four, but he wasn't anywhere near as strong as Orochimaru.

And what do you mean Kimmimaro at his peak? He was at his peak when he lost to part 1 Gaara and Lee. Sure, he died because of a heart disease, but we saw that he wasn't debilitated by it. It just led to his heart stopping right before he got to kill Gaara.

Kimimaro was put on Jugo's level in the anime. That's weak sauce. Especially to Orochimaru.

Um, no, he's not. He killed Orochimaru because he was severely weakened by his illness or whatever. Sasuke himself specifically stated to Karin that he would have had no chance against him otherwise.

kimmimaro was way stronger he was the only one who stopped jugo's rampage