Smurph: First Volley
Awesome, lots to talk about.
First I’m going to refute Scoob’s defenses against my psychic powers. Second, I’m going to take advantage of some assumptions he makes about my light powers.
Third, I’m going to press my advantage and win!
Here we go:
Psyche!
Scoob raises three basic defenses against my Psychadelic’s telepathy and telekinesis: a) android mind, b) Super Skrull shields, and c) intangibility.
I don’t believe any of these are adequate:
[list=a][*] Skrull-droid Mind
Here’s the problem: Scoobless’ amalgamation takes advantage of Super Skrull’s unique physiology. In his opening post, he relies on Skrull shapeshifting, and obviously all of Kl’rts Fantastic-Faux powers.
There’s another power Scoob hasn’t mentioned though: Hypnotism.
My assertion is: If your amalgam has Skrull physiology, that includes the Skrull mind meld that we see up above. It’s not full blown telepathy, but it is an amateur form, and I sincerely doubt that he can have that power and be immune to telepathy.
Our rules of amalgamation back this up:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=15070040#post15070286
Of the listed options for considering weaknesses in amalgamations, Scoob’s skrull-droid mind would benefit if we had chosen Option 3… but we chose Option 2. And while Scoob’s scan backs up Vision not being susceptible to subtle telepathy, that’s not the same thing as having a specific, active defense against telepathy, such as a built-in psi-shield, or Emma Frost’s diamond form.
Additional reasons that his android mind doesn’t protect him:
[list][*] The telepathic attack I’m using isn’t subtle. It’s overt. Really overt.
Relevant because Scoob’s scan just defends him against subtle tricks:
http://s1142.photobucket.com/user/Scoobless/media/Vision/Telepathy1.jpg.html
Fair enough, I won’t use telepathic illusions against him. Holographic illusions and telepathic mind-rape are all still on the table though.
[*] Telepathy affects androids too!
In Whedon’s run on Astonishing, it was revealed that Xavier could hear Danger’s thoughts long before the X-Men realized she was sentient.
I already showed that Psylocke shut down both Omega Sentinel, who has technopathy and an android body, and Arkea, a technological bacterium, in one attack. It’s worth noting that she’s also recently shut down Fantomex, whose brain is filled with nanites and psi-shielding, and who possesses a techno-organic nervous system, as well as Meme/Hope Summers’ sentient data form in one attack.
Here’s that:
There’s other absurd examples. Supposedly Esme Cuckoo once mind-controlled a taxi. The point is: a mind’s still a mind, even if it’s not an organic one.
[*] Vision’s the same as we are!
Driving the above point home, when Vision first appeared in ’68, the following was stated in Avengers 57:
“… every inch a human being – except that all of his bodily organs are constructed of synthetic materials.” (stolen – but cited! – from Wiki).
The organs are all there, ready to be busted apart in a mind blast, or a psy-knife to the cerebrum. Synthetic, but Psylocke’s proved that don’t matter.
Conclusion: Whether it’s shutting down the Skrull part of his brain, or the whole Skrull-droid blend, Psychadelic has his number. [/list]
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[*]b. Super-Skrull’s shields
OK, before I get started here: my assumption, which I will back up in my light-powers section, is that any shields Scoob raises get immediately drained, and just make me stronger.
Regardless, I’d like to respond to this:
If any proof can be shown (pretty sure there is none) that Super Skrull's force fields are vastly different from the Invisible Woman's then I can simply go intangible.
Well… my pretty sure it’s not my job to prove that Super Skrull’s shields aren’t like Invisible Woman’s, but rather Scoob’s job to prove that they are the same, including in the details.
That said, plenty of proof exists that the Skrull’s haven’t perfected the art of replicating powers. There are both quotes and obvious power disparities littered throughout the Secret Invasion event that back up this notion.
Further, the true nature of Invisible Woman’s powers, including the specific cosmic energy she manipulates (the same that governs Celestials?) wasn’t known to Reed, iirc, until long after Super Skrull’s first appearance. If Reed didn’t know how Sue’s powers worked, and how truly powerful she was, I doubt the Skrull’s did…
It all doesn’t really matter though: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=ra0y2x&s=5#.VP847FPF9Hg
Emma’s telepathy goes right through Sue’s shield, and f*cks up her brain.
The Jean Grey that appeared in Scoob’s scan didn’t have telepathy at the time (she was unaware tho), and wouldn’t regain telepathy until much later.
As for his Psi-Lord scans, it’s great that Sue blocks a mindblast, but that’s not the same thing as long distance telepathy.
Conclusion: Shields won’t shield against me.
[*]c. Intangibility
This is quick:
When Vision goes intangible, he still has mass, and still touches things, even if he goes through them.
This obviously isn’t a defense against telepathy, and further, Psylocke’s telekinetic blade stuns whatever it touches [scans provided in OP]. No reason this would be untrue just because he’s reduced his mass.
Conclusion: I can still affect him with both TK and TP.
Also, while I’m on the topic
If any proof can be shown (pretty sure there is none) that Super Skrull's force fields are vastly different from the Invisible Woman's then I can simply go intangible. All other powers function perfectly when Vision is ethereal:http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n606/Scoobless/Vision/intangible3.jpg
And unlike other phasers, he can choose to be wholely or partially intangible at any moment, he is not limited to one or the other.
http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n606/Scoobless/Vision/partialPhase1.jpg
These scans contradict each other : If Vision can be wholely or partially intangible at any moment, then why do we assume his head was intangible while he was attempting to use his powers in the first scan? It seems more likely that the only part of him that was intangible was his torso.
Relevant, because the moment Scoob turns corporeal to attack me, he gets mind-fried, or drained.
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Scoob thought he could get past my psychic assault.
He couldn’t.
...Psyche!
Moving on…
The Light Show
I said I wanted to take advantage of some of Scoob’s assumptions.
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[*]First, he assumes that his shields will be effective, but we’ve seen Dr. Light drain the shields and constructs of top tier Green Lanterns [scans in first post].
Here, he manipulates the magic of Wonder Girl’s lasso (I messed up the URL of this scan in the first post, sorry!):
http://s593.photobucket.com/user/Max_Eisenhardt/media/Tourney/TeenTitans222005page06_zpsbacfd04b.jpg.html
We’ve also seen Dr. Light drain the energy out of Superboy, and in a moment, I’ll show him doing that again to another energy manipulator.
Dr. Light is a top tier energy manipulator, and there’s no reason that Super Skrull’s shields will fare any better than Green Lantern’s.
[*]Second, Scoob assumes that he will be able to see through my light tricks.
http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n606/Scoobless/Vision/Scans1.jpg
I hadn’t seen that scan before, it’s awesome.
Just… not awesome enough.
Light controls light in all its forums, including the entirety of the spectrum. Vision can look along any of those spectrums and my holograms will still appear entirely real.
[*]Third, Scoob assumes I’m not a speedster. I shouldn’t have to post this again but:
http://s593.photobucket.com/user/Max_Eisenhardt/media/20_zps0f6f861d.jpg.html
”Fast. So fast Parasite didn’t have time to use his powers.
But slower than light.”
Scoobless is trying to play this off as sub-speed of sound, but the text is explicit. Even if Superman entered at a slower speed, we know he was moving extremely fast during this scan, but sub-C, and therefore prey to Light.
[*]Finally, I’m happy to defeat three of Scoob’s assumptions in one swoop. He says I won’t be able to drain Vision, because he won’t be standing still. He claims I can’t operate at high speeds. He further claims I can’t use powers while in photonic form.
http://s593.photobucket.com/user/Max_Eisenhardt/media/Tourney/scan0018_zps3183b527.jpg.html
http://s593.photobucket.com/user/Max_Eisenhardt/media/Tourney/scan0022_zps69bb9097.jpg.html
Dr. Light drains The Ray.
Ray is a light speeder, and was trying to outrace Dr. Light. They were both traveling as light forms, and Dr. Light drains him.[/list]
In my next post, I'm going to put the most important of these points together, and press my advantage in this battle.
