Originally posted by Silent Master
You've already admitted that he's never shown the tactical foresight needed to fight entirely at range so you arguing that he will do so here is just scripting because you don't want you pet character to lose.Cap wins, deal with it.
BTW, the scene you just mentioned was his clone Boba Fett, you really need to up your Star Wars knowledge.
I'm not scripting a thing.... He was shown to fight at distance.. is capable of fighting at distance. It's really that simple. He was shown fighting at distance and CHOSE to fight that way when he could for a reason. A clone of himself also decided to fight at distance against Luke... showing it's a tactic they use often for good reason. That's all there is to it.
See the thing about the thread is that it is in Jango's favor simply because he gets a free shot in on Captain America. We have no idea where and when Jango strikes Cap or how he goes about doing so since the guy never really assassinated a person(just hired another person to do it for him).
Specifics are nice things to have.
Originally posted by AuraAngel
See the thing about the thread is that it is in Jango's favor simply because he gets a free shot in on Captain America. We have no idea where and when Jango strikes Cap or how he goes about doing so since the guy never really assassinated a person(just hired another person to do it for him).Specifics are nice things to have.
Good point. How Jango will attempt to kill Cap is left ambiguous. Guess he could snipe him in his sleep from a mile away for all we know
Originally posted by juggerman
Cap can also know the gun out of Jango's hand or knock Jango out of the air entiely with a well placed shield toss. The idea that Cap can only hope to stalemate is silly even if Jango tries to keep his distance
Certain people have never seen any movies with Cap in them, so they don't know that he has feats of blocking energy attacks and taking out flying opponents. they just don't want their pet character to lose. so they pick a tactic that at best ends in a draw...if you ignore Cap's feats.
Originally posted by juggerman
Cap can also know the gun out of Jango's hand or knock Jango out of the air entiely with a well placed shield toss. The idea that Cap can only hope to stalemate is silly even if Jango tries to keep his distance
Except when he is throwing the shield he is leaving himself wide open to getting shot by Jango. It's a catch 22 for Cap. He can sit back on the defensive blocking Jango's shots but doing so won't allow him to attack or he can throw his shield but in doing so he leaves himself wide open.
Originally posted by Silent Master
We have already established that he's never shown the tactical foresight needed to fight entirely at range, you trying to use feats for Boba Fett just proves how desperate you are.Cap wins.
This isn't close true at all.... Here he knows he's about to get into a fight. Against Kenobi, He had no idea he was coming nor that a fight was going to take place. He was trying to escape/leave (keeping distance) when Kenobi appeared and tried to stop him. Even then he was trying to avoid a direct conflict. There was no lacking of foresight and planning to keep it at distance. He may have wanted to or would have if he wasn't caught a little off guard by Kenobi. Even then, he STILL tried to keep it at distance even though he was engaged in close quarters combat. Showing that's how he prefers to fight. Case closed.
Originally posted by juggerman
Good point. How Jango will attempt to kill Cap is left ambiguous. Guess he could snipe him in his sleep from a mile away for all we know
Quoted the wrong post and too lazy to go back.. BUT... Remember Cap could decide to throw his shield.. But he'd also know that comes with a big risk if he misses... Shoot he could hit him and still not doing enough damage that Jango will be firing back in moments. The reality is Cap isn't a tactical idiot.. he'd know the potential consequences of letting his primary weapon for protection fly out of his hands.
Originally posted by Silent Master
You're acting like it's a given that Cap will miss with the shield and that he'll get hit the second he throws it. it's like you never considered that Cap might be able to dodge after he throws the shield or that the shield will connect with either the gun/jetpack or Jango himself.
You're acting like it's a given he'll even throw it. You're basically saying Cap would take that tactical risk... and I don't think he's likely to do so. Yet, this is his only chance if Jango stays at range. So really, you're hoping for a lot of things in order for Cap to win.