Originally posted by AuraAngel
Yeah but the thing is Jango's missile actually kinda sucks. Failed to send Obi-Wan any appreciable distance.
Probably because it didn't hit Obi-Wan head on. Whilst WS's rocket hit Cap's shield head on which sent Cap flying and knocked him down.
Obi-Wan surviving close shots from Slave I's turbolasers and Jango's missile speaks more to Obi-Wan's durability anyway.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I just realized what the problem is: I'm arguing based on the premise that the Prequels have footage, scale, or internal continuity that makes any semblance of sense. I... I'm so sorry, I honestly don't know what came over me.Jango wins. He's like the Superman of Star Wars. He'll win because he needs to win, unless it's against a slow-moving old black man. Then he'll die.
This post and your previous post make me go WUT????
Did you say mace didn't have any good feats LOL.. you mean besides beating arguably the greatest sith lord of all time? That alone means he has one of the single best feats in all the movies. While Jango lost that is hardly a low showing... he acquitted himself well considering his jet pack malfunctioned. Further, as previously stated mace would curb cap as well.
Next, what do u mean they have no speed feats or agility shown above human level. Did u forget the scene where obi in TPM jumps ridiculous high to resume the fight with maul. Did u forget anakin flying in AOTC? He displayed far beyond human perception n reflexes. Not just flying the vehicle but falling from the sky. Yoda against dooku n sids showed beyond human agility, speed n reflexes. Sids cut down three acclaimed Jedi before they could react with fisto only barely dodging attack one. Speed feats were shown as best they could while still being able for the audience to see. This is very clear. So yeah, Jango doing well against an acclaimed n renowned Jedi with certified speed feats is impressive
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Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiWhat do you mean Wut?
This post and your previous post make me go WUT????
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiThat's like saying Dorothy could kick Johnny Storm's ass because she defeated the Wicked Witch. Mace twirled his sword so much that he was able to kick Sidious in the face. Wow, what a superb display of martial prowess. Twirl twirl, slash block, jab kick. Gotcha.
Did you say mace didn't have any good feats LOL.. you mean besides beating arguably the greatest sith lord of all time? That alone means he has one of the single best feats in all the movies.
Yeah, no wonder Jango lost to him so splendidly. And Cap's got nothing on those sick moves.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiHe fired a few single shots directly at the guy's centre mass while standing stock still. Then he died. Yeah, what a badass master of combat. No way Cap can stand up to such ferocious tactics, such brilliant moves, such incredible strength and speed.
While Jango lost that is hardly a low showing... he acquitted himself well considering his jet pack malfunctioned.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiDuh. Force and shit. Guy didn't burn half a calorie killing Jango. Cap would burn probably 10 calories killing Jango. The Force is like 20x Captain America.
Further, as previously stated mace would curb cap as well.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiYeah, this right here is why I say "F*ck it."
Next, what do u mean they have no speed feats or agility shown above human level. Did u forget the scene where obi in TPM jumps ridiculous high to resume the fight with maul. Did u forget anakin flying in AOTC? He displayed far beyond human perception n reflexes. Not just flying the vehicle but falling from the sky. Yoda against dooku n sids showed beyond human agility, speed n reflexes. Sids cut down three acclaimed Jedi before they could react with fisto only barely dodging attack one. Speed feats were shown as best they could while still being able for the audience to see. This is very clear. So yeah, Jango doing well against an acclaimed n renowned Jedi with certified speed feats is impressive
Terrible movie-making decisions and internal continuity inconsistencies pretty much mean you can argue for whatever about the Prequels. Sometimes the Jedi move super fast (once), other times they're totally braindead slow (Agen Kolar). Sometimes they have superpowered durability (Anakin's skydiving adventure), sometimes a single kick will cause distracting amounts of pain.
If they have super Force shields that make them super strong, it's never discussed, mentioned, shown performed, or whatever. It's left to the fans to infer whatever power they want to make sense of the nonsense on screen.
So Jango wins. Because his only martial feats are against the Jedi. And the Jedi can have (or not have) whatever ability we need them to have to fit our argument.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
What do you mean Wut?That's like saying Dorothy could kick Johnny Storm's ass because she defeated the Wicked Witch. Mace twirled his sword so much that he was able to kick Sidious in the face. Wow, what a superb display of martial prowess. Twirl twirl, slash block, jab kick. Gotcha.
Yeah, no wonder Jango lost to him so splendidly. And Cap's got nothing on those sick moves.
He fired a few single shots directly at the guy's centre mass while standing stock still. Then he died. Yeah, what a badass master of combat. No way Cap can stand up to such ferocious tactics, such brilliant moves, such incredible strength and speed.
Duh. Force and shit. Guy didn't burn half a calorie killing Jango. Cap would burn probably 10 calories killing Jango. The Force is like 20x Captain America.
Yeah, this right here is why I say "F*ck it."
Terrible movie-making decisions and internal continuity inconsistencies pretty much mean you can argue for whatever about the Prequels. Sometimes the Jedi move super fast (once), other times they're totally braindead slow (Agen Kolar). Sometimes they have superpowered durability (Anakin's skydiving adventure), sometimes a single kick will cause distracting amounts of pain.
If they have super Force shields that make them super strong, it's never discussed, mentioned, shown performed, or whatever. It's left to the fans to infer whatever power they want to make sense of the nonsense on screen.
So Jango wins. Because his only martial feats are against the Jedi. And the Jedi can have (or not have) whatever ability we need them to have to fit our argument.
HUH? You're looking far far too much into how he won as opposed to what him winning means. Three acclaimed Jedi were killed in an instant by Sids. They were literally blitzed before they could even react. That is the force Mace was dealing with and had to adapt to in order to defeat. We're talking about one of, if not the most possible sith in the mythos. Yeah that guy, Mace beat him. That is probably the single best feat in all the movies, and to even try and downplay that is how desperate you are during this argument.
Cap would get curbed by mace to so I don't know why you continue to belabor the point.
This is also LULZ worthy. There is no internal continuity issues only a very clear presentation of the movies. Even back when there was no CGI, we know how bad ass the force was and what it could do for you. We saw a total newb in the force casually block blaster fire while blindfolded. We saw Obi make a mere gesture to mind rape someone... "The aren't the droids we're looking for". We saw Luke (still very newbish) Balancing doing a handstand while levitating stuff with the force. We see an old and feeble man in Yoda lifting a x-wing from the swampy water. Feat after feat was shown even then how badass the force is and what it can do. This is further reinforced in the prequels. We see obi jumping well beyond human levels. In the ROTS novelization which is canon to me... We see mace and sids fighting as shadowy mist that Anakin can barely even perceive. The same Anakin who fought Dooku.. Fly through the air with seemingly super perception and reflexes. That guy couldn't even perceive the fight between Mace and Sids. We see feeble Yoda in his fight with Dooku handling objects weight that is far far beyond human ability. To even argue that this wasn't shown or there were inconsistencies between the movies is dismissing the clear presentation of the movies. Sure, it wasn't done to the same effect, but it's crystal clear none the less. Point is, one of the most acclaimed Jedi in the mythos was giving a solid fight by Jango. That tells me that if Jango fights how he normally does and smart the best Cap can hope for is a tie. With Jango likely to win eventually.