20 NOVELS?! Journey to The Force Awakens!

Started by chilled monkey11 pages
Originally posted by The Merchant
Nah, remember the Legends stuff can still work their way into the new canon. TOTJ and all the Old Republic stuff can still be used to write Jedi.

I really hope that you're right about that.

Originally posted by psmith81992
Uh true. Nobody cares anymore.

It depends. If some good new Jedi are introduced then it might be worth a look. If for example, Scout is re-introduced (and her character hasn't been Bariss'd) then I'd definitely care.

After 30 years Luke ought to have at least 'some' students, otherwise he's 'really' been sleeping on the job.

Originally posted by chilled monkey
(and her character hasn't been Bariss'd)
What does that mean? What happened with Barriss in The Clone Wars was pretty great. They actually made her into an interesting, complicated character instead of some background Jedi that's just lamely killed during Order 66.

Scout coming back would be pretty sweet, though.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
What does that mean? What happened with Barriss in The Clone Wars was pretty great. They actually made her into an interesting, complicated character instead of some background Jedi that's just lamely killed during Order 66.

How is it "great?" They made Barriss into a villain and a traitor. That's disgusting.

Not to mention it made no sense at all. For example, since when has Barriss been a Jar'kai expert?

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Scout coming back would be pretty sweet, though.

Definitely.

Originally posted by The Merchant
Nah, remember the Legends stuff can still work their way into the new canon. TOTJ and all the Old Republic stuff can still be used to write Jedi.

Let's hope not. TotJ and KotOR were both good the most of the rest sucked ass. I'd also rather have unique designs from stuff in this time period and not have stuff that looks highly derivative of tech from the films.

Originally posted by chilled monkey
How is it "great?" They made Barriss into a villain and a traitor. That's disgusting.

Not to mention it made no sense at all. For example, since when has Barriss been a Jar'kai expert?

So making a background Jedi that barely anyone knew or cared about into a traitor is disgusting because... Um... Uh...?

They actually succeeded in turning Barriss into an interesting character. And a basis for you thinking it makes no sense is that she was a Jar'kai wielder? Seriously?

Originally posted by |King Joker|
So making a background Jedi that barely anyone knew or cared about into a traitor is disgusting because... Um... Uh...?

BECAUSE I knew and cared about her. I like Barriss, she's one of my favourite character in the series. I like her because she's nice and caring. For example, in the first MedStar novel she chastises a doctor for treating the clone troopers like machines and makes a point of telling him that they're people too.

THAT is why its disgusting.

DUH!

Originally posted by |King Joker|
They actually succeeded in turning Barriss into an interesting character.

She was always an interesting character. What they did was an insult.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
And a basis for you thinking it makes no sense is that she was a Jar'kai wielder? Seriously?

Seriously, did you actually watch the series? Or the 2003 series? Or read the MedStar novels?

In none of her appearances had Barriss shown any tendency at all in using two blades at once. She's always used just one lightsabre.

And then, out of the blue, she's suddenly an expert on par with dual blade specialists?

No, it does not make sense for one to suddenly be an absolute master in a fighting style that they have never before shown any knowledge of, to the point where they are equal to someone who specialises in that style.

Originally posted by chilled monkey
BECAUSE I knew and cared about her. I like Barriss, she's one of my favourite character in the series. I like her because she's nice and caring. For example, in the first MedStar novel she chastises a doctor for treating the clone troopers like machines and makes a point of telling him that they're people too.

THAT is why its disgusting.

DUH!

No, that's why it's great. It shows just how the Wars get to people and twists their views and corrupts them. Barriss had good intentions, but the part of her that wanted peace was so ****ed up and warped as a result of all the shit she saw that the only way to stop the Clone Wars in her head was to attack the source of the problem -- the Jedi. And don't worry, the MedStar books are still canon in Legends, so nothing in those books were retconned, to my knowledge.

Originally posted by chilled monkey
Seriously, did you actually watch the series? Or the 2003 series? Or read the MedStar novels?

In none of her appearances had Barriss shown any tendency at all in using two blades at once. She's always used just one lightsabre.

And then, out of the blue, she's suddenly an expert on par with dual blade specialists?

No, it does not make sense for one to suddenly be an absolute master in a fighting style that they have never before shown any knowledge of, to the point where they are equal to someone who specialises in that style.

Kind of shocked that you could possibly give a **** about such a comparably minuscule and inconsequential detail that basically affects nothing. She can dual wield. So what? Maybe Luminara taught her the basics on their off time and Barriss built up her skill with it in preparation for the whole bombing-frame-Tano thing. It's irrelevant.

I think King Joker is really the only one who cares

Barriss is so cool tho

Originally posted by chilled monkey
BECAUSE I knew and cared about her. I like Barriss, she's one of my favourite character in the series. I like her because she's nice and caring. For example, in the first MedStar novel she chastises a doctor for treating the clone troopers like machines and makes a point of telling him that they're people too.

THAT is why its disgusting.

DUH!

She was always an interesting character. What they did was an insult.

Seriously, did you actually watch the series? Or the 2003 series? Or read the MedStar novels?

In none of her appearances had Barriss shown any tendency at all in using two blades at once. She's always used just one lightsabre.

And then, out of the blue, she's suddenly an expert on par with dual blade specialists?

No, it does not make sense for one to suddenly be an absolute master in a fighting style that they have never before shown any knowledge of, to the point where they are equal to someone who specialises in that style.

Perhaps they didn't have to follow any of this because none of it was Canon.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
No, that's why it's great. It shows just how the Wars get to people and twists their views and corrupts them. Barriss had good intentions, but the part of her that wanted peace was so ****ed up and warped as a result of all the shit she saw that the only way to stop the Clone Wars in her head was to attack the source of the problem -- the Jedi.

The Jedi were not the source of the problem. The senate was.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
And don't worry, the MedStar books are still canon in Legends, so nothing in those books were retconned, to my knowledge.

True.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Kind of shocked that you could possibly give a **** about such a comparably minuscule and inconsequential detail that basically affects nothing.

Kind of shocked that you can't see the problem here.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
She can dual wield. So what?

So how is she every bit as good at it as Ventress? Despite what you seem to think, just practising the same fighting style as another person does not automatically make you as good as they are. If they dedicate more time to it then they will be better.

Let me explain; Ventress specialises in dual wielding. That means she dedicates a lot of time to both practising and using it in live combat.

Barrriss does NOT specialise in dual wielding. This means that she doesn't dedicate much time to it. Even practising in secret wouldn't be that much, seeing as how little spare time they had during the war.

You're seriously saying that you don't find it odd that completely out of nowhere, someone who has never specialised in dual wielding is suddenly equal to someone who has used it as their preferred combat form for years? To the point that even Ahsoka, who has fought both of them, can't tell the difference?

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Maybe Luminara taught her the basics on their off time and Barriss built up her skill with it in preparation for the whole bombing-frame-Tano thing.

Or maybe its just bad writing. Plus even then, it still doesn't compare to how much experience with the style Ventress has.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
It's irrelevant.

It's irrelevant only if you don't care about the quality of the show's writing.

Originally posted by chilled monkey
The Jedi were not the source of the problem. The senate was.
That isn't what she thought.
Originally posted by chilled monkey
Kind of shocked that you can't see the problem here.
lol.
Originally posted by chilled monkey
So how is she every bit as good at it as Ventress? Despite what you seem to think, just practising the same fighting style as another person does not automatically make you as good as they are. If they dedicate more time to it then they will be better.
She isn't on par with Ventress, and I never said she was, either. Barriss was using Ventress' lightsabers and was using the same lightsaber style as her, too. Ventress showed Ahsoka the warehouse so Ahsoka had every reason to believe it was Ventress.
Originally posted by chilled monkey
Barrriss does NOT specialise in dual wielding.
As far as we knew. Adding another aspect to a character that, again, is inconsequential and minuscule shouldn't be such a big deal.
Originally posted by chilled monkey
You're seriously saying that you don't find it odd that completely out of nowhere, someone who has never specialised in dual wielding is suddenly equal to someone who has used it as their preferred combat form for years? To the point that even Ahsoka, who has fought both of them, can't tell the difference?
Who's saying Barriss = Ventress, again? You're the only one who is. If you know anything about Barriss, you'd know she an extremely studious person and has an amazing memory. Her learning Makashi/Jar'Kai is not some crazy thing you're making it out to be. And her master being Luminara, someone who has faced Ventress, it's not unrealistic that she could learn to mimic Ventress' style.
Originally posted by chilled monkey
It's irrelevant only if you don't care about the quality of the show's writing.
Barriss duel-wielding in no way hampers the quality of the show's writing, lol.

Originally posted by |King Joker|

Barriss duel-wielding in no way hampers the quality of the show's writing, lol.

Lol

Some people just gna hate.

Indeed.

http://www.starwars.com/news/what-happened-after-endor-find-out-in-star-wars-aftermath

Whelp, this'll be the big one. The first book that really ****s the old EU.

Right off the bat it seems likely that the events of Truce At Bakura is about to be retconned out of existence. Curious to see what happens to the Imperial Remnant in general.

I bet shit tons of Imperial Inquisitors are gonna be trying to assassinate Luke. That'd be fun to see.

Heir to the Jedi was pretty awful.

At least the EU was interesting, for better or for worse. I don't remember the last time I read such a pointless, bland novel.

"I can’t wait for our first canon glimpse into the state of the galaxy after the Battle of Endor."

Jesus...

Originally posted by Trocity
Heir to the Jedi was pretty awful.

At least the EU was interesting, for better or for worse. I don't remember the last time I read such a pointless, bland novel.

Not every book is going to be good. Though it is disappointing Heir to the Jedi sucked. I think I'll just skip it.