Originally posted by TrocityAgreed. He's already stomped Shaak, taking out Depa whose accomplishments are minimal shouldn't be his most difficult task to date 👆
The General.
Interesting to see that the guy who frequently puts Agen Kolar down for having a "lack of information" is so quick to support Depa Billaba, against Grievous no less. Truly interesting.
Originally posted by ILS
Agreed. He's already stomped Shaak, taking out Depa whose accomplishments are minimal shouldn't be his most difficult task to date 👆Interesting to see that the guy who frequently puts Agen Kolar down for having a "lack of information" is so quick to support Depa Billaba, against Grievous no less. Truly interesting.
Let's play some more devil's advocate :maybe
Shaak Ti, per word of Lucas is a peer of Windu and Obi-Wan, or so I've heard from seeing ShootingNova mention the accolade once or twice lurking comments
G canon are the movies, the novels of the movies, the scripts, and Lucas' word.
Shaak Ti vs Grievous was purely a C canon event
Higher canon supersedes lower order canon to my limited knowledge
Would sort of figure Grievous' showing there was thus illegitimate, or an inaccurate representation of how events would go depending on circumstance then (been a while since I've seen it, maybe she and her group were just worn the **** out? You know, instead of just being an outlier :maybe) :hmm
That's the ***** of a series with an official canon policy as far as I can tell with this hobby :hmm
Not sure if that quote exists, or is interpreted correctly. Then again simply being a peer of them doesn't necessarily put her above Grievous even if it does exist - Kenobi himself isn't Windu's equal, and on a grand scale (we're talking out of 10,000+ Jedi) Ti should be considered closer to Windu and Kenobi than most. Due to actually having showings and being a prominent Jedi. That could be said of a lot of characters though.
Either way I'd favour Grievous overall against Ti, for reasons I'd hope are obvious, but people still have their tongue's stuck deep inside the wretched a**hole of TCW when it comes to characters they dislike, so not much you can do there as far as finding common ground with people. *shrugs*
@ILS
You can't judge that fight basing only on one Grievous' duel in the old CW.
In a multiple sources, Grievous is stated to be about equal to top jedi masters, like Fisto or even Drallig.
The question here is, if Sahhk Ti and Depa are on this level. i would say yes, and if not, then they are at least really close.
As I remember, in LoE for example. And in the old CW itself.
Anyway, Grievous fighting style from TCW is much more similar to ROTS movie then his style from old CW. Also, I wouldn't say, that Grievous is that weak in TCW. After all, even in a comic, which was basing on the old CW, Ventress at the end of the duel, was really close to put Grievous on his knees.
Originally posted by ILS
Not sure if that quote exists, or is interpreted correctly.
Couldn't tell you myself. Was asking if you knew of it.
I have seen a few comments from ShootingNova reference it, doesn't mean you were in the thread to be fair :hmm
Then again simply being a peer of them doesn't necessarily put her above Grievous even if it does exist
Wasn't saying it did
Just that using her showing vs Grievous as a gauge of how the match would play out (a stomp as the cartoon had it go) probably isn't accurate.
Kenobi himself isn't Windu's equal, and on a grand scale
I know this too, tiers can be kind of wide and all
Ever read Yu Yu Hakusho? S Class, the "top tier" demons of the verse? Can vary in power to what some in the same tier consider servants to nigh godly ****ers.
Obi-Wan can exist in the same tier as Windu and still be significantly outclassed.
Either way I'd favour Grievous overall against Ti, for reasons I'd hope are obvious, but people still have their tongue's stuck deep inside the wretched a**hole of TCW when it comes to characters they dislike, so not much you can do there as far as finding common ground with people. *shrugs*
Grievous probably does take it one on one, even assuming that Lucas statement is a thing
Just asking after it to not the original CW cartoon, with that quote taken at face value, doesn't appear to accurately reflect the disparity between her and Grievous :maybe
"Power moves served you well on Hypori against Jedi such as Daakman Barrek and Tarr Seir. But I pity you should you have to face off against any of the Council Masters." He called into hand his courtly, curve-handled lightsaber and drew a rapid X in the air--a Makashi flourish. "Do I need to demonstrate what responses you can expect from Cin Drallig or Obi-Wan Kenobi? From Mace Windu or, stars help you, Yoda?"
(...)
"Finesse. Artfulness. Economy. Otherwise, my friend, I fear that you will end up beyond the repair of even the Geonosians. Do you take my meaning?"
--- LoE
Well, that statement is describing Grievous as more or less (more likely) equal to top duelists of the Order. Fisto is in the same league as well, and he was really close to fedeat Grievous. Grievous also fought Kenobi many times, and some of those duels were equal. I'm not consider Grievous as some weak shit, but he isn't also as strong as he was in the old CW. That's all.
Actually, the quote says that if Grievous continued using the same techniques he was using against his MagnaGuards, that, in Dooku's supposed opinion, he would have difficulty defeating Cin Drallig.
This was after defeating Mundi, Ti, Secura, Kruhk and Seirr.
Still wondering why people take what Dooku says as gospel but hey, whatever keeps their dick hard.