Odinson -Vs- Wonder Woman

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
All things carver can be boiled down to how it makes the Hulk look.

WW > Odinson, because WW > Superman, but as Hulk > WW, therefore, Hulk > Superman.

This is how it goes in carverworld.

Lol...or I could just like WW. When did I ever say she would pull a majority against Superman? I even said in this same thread that Thor would pull a majority against her if he had the hammer. Superman would pull a majority as well. Don't know how big of a majority either of these two would pull but my bets would be towards those two instead of her. I'm giving her the nods here because she obviously have the advantage since Thor is hindered here.

Even though you were being a butthole ABHI, good posts. I see some flaws that I will respond to shortly but you also made good points.

Thor wins the vast majority, Thor has in every category that matters. No doubt WW would put a great fight but she stills loses.

Shut up Carver.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It proves Zod can be affected by strength levels which aren't exactly herald level.

Glad you asked:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120679/3206995-savagehawkman_9_thegroup_020.jpg

There is no such thing as Herald level strength. We have high class 100 strength though. Lastly, nearly all characters in comics can be affected by under class 100 strength. Also mystical or plot weapons are known to increase striking power more than it really should.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Thor wins the vast majority, Thor has in every category that matters. No doubt WW would put a great fight but she stills loses.
Speed matters, Thor is slower. Skill matters, Thor is less skilled. Hax weapons matter, WW has the more unfair Hax weapons.

Originally posted by h1a8
Speed matters, Thor is slower. Skill matters, Thor is less skilled. Hax weapons matter, WW has the more unfair Hax weapons.

How is he less skilled?

Originally posted by h1a8
There is no such thing as Herald level strength.

Says who, exactly?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Says who, exactly?
says me. Seriously there is no such thing. There are heralds with human strength, meta strength, etc. Strength alone doesn't define a Herald, nor is it a necessary requirement. Same goes for skyfather or any other tier.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
How is he less skilled?
He hasn't shown more skillful maneuvers than Diana has. He's a decent fighter with some finesse and some amount of technique. Diana has shown greater finesse, more techniques, and is considered a greater fighter. Now in weapons, I would say they are peers.

Originally posted by h1a8
says me. Seriously there is no such thing. There are heralds with human strength, meta strength, etc. Strength alone doesn't define a Herald, nor is it a necessary requirement. Same goes for skyfather or any other tier.

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All right. Think you kinda missed the intended point of the term though.

Originally posted by h1a8
He hasn't shown more skillful maneuvers than Diana has. He's a decent fighter with some finesse and some amount of technique. Diana has shown greater finesse, more techniques, and is considered a greater fighter. Now in weapons, I would say they are peers.
finesse? Because he doesn't do backflips n shit? And he has greater strength, endurance and stamina

Originally posted by Sin I AM
finesse? Because he doesn't do backflips n shit? And he has greater strength, endurance and stamina
The ease in which one does techniques is finesse, not backflips. I disagree that he has greater strength but I'll accept it here for this thread.

Since Diana has the strength to ko Thor then her speed advantage offsets his strength advantage. She will hit him far more times to offset it. Stamina won't play a role in this fight since it will be over before any of the two gets tired, especially if the lasso comes to play.

Originally posted by h1a8
The ease in which one does techniques is finesse, not backflips. I disagree that he has greater strength but I'll accept it here for this thread.

Since Diana has the strength to ko Thor then her speed advantage offsets his strength advantage. She will hit him far more times to offset it. Stamina won't play a role in this fight since it will be over before any of the two gets tired, especially if the lasso comes to play.

Lol and his damage soak, durability and endurance?

Originally posted by h1a8
There is no such thing as Herald level strength. We have high class 100 strength though. Lastly, nearly all characters in comics can be affected by under class 100 strength. Also mystical or plot weapons are known to increase striking power more than it really should.

As long as Thor has his hammer ,he wins ,give me a break.Is she going to use her lame invisable jet to sneak up on him,joke.

Originally posted by h1a8
The ease in which one does techniques is finesse, not backflips. I disagree that he has greater strength but I'll accept it here for this thread.

Still don't see the skill edge. Backflips and splits sure, I get that she's better in those.
He's stronger. Pretty sure you know that.

Originally posted by h1a8

Since Diana has the strength to ko Thor then her speed advantage offsets his strength advantage. She will hit him far more times to offset it. Stamina won't play a role in this fight since it will be over before any of the two gets tired, especially if the lasso comes to play.

He's dealt with foes just as fast if not faster plus he has devastating ranged powers. He's much more durable. A bunch of seemingly fatal wounds won't stop him, but can't say the same for her.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Still don't see the skill edge. Backflips and splits sure, I get that she's better in those.
He's stronger. Pretty sure you know that.

He's dealt with foes just as fast if not faster plus he has devastating ranged powers. He's much more durable. A bunch of seemingly fatal wounds won't stop him, but can't say the same for her.

You have to have be trained in MA in order to know what I'm talking about. She shows more casualness in her techniques and variety of techniques. Shes more efficient as well. This shows level of skill and expertise.

Based on how WW compares to others she fought and did well against then I would say that she is at least as strong. Based off natural feats Thor would be stronger, he would be stronger than Thanos if we go solely off natural feats.

But I'll give you the strength argument. Let's day Diana is weaker (but not by much). Her speed more than makes up for it. The characters who Thor fought are irrelevant if they didn't fight him with their top speed. WW will fight Thor with speed because this is a forum fight and not a comic one (where the writer can ignore a character's speed and other abilities ).

Thor doesn't have ranged attacks here. I challenge you to show me times where he was shown to use ranged attacks in battle (without Mjlonir of course). Diana can simply stun Thor and wrap him with the lasso. Easy fight.