Pre Retcon MM? That dude fired off a blast capable of slagging several BILLION dimensions, gathered all the free energy in the multiverse to reinforce a force field he made to keep Beyonder out, was more powerful than all the multiversal powers combined, and was second only to Pre Retcon Beyonder in power.
Nothing Thanos did with the HotU was beyond Pre Retcon MM's power.
Pre Retcon MM ftw.
Originally posted by zopzop
Pre Retcon MM? That dude fired off a blast capable of slagging several BILLION dimensions, gathered all the free energy in the multiverse to reinforce a force field he made to keep Beyonder out, was more powerful than all the multiversal powers combined, and was second only to Pre Retcon Beyonder in power.Nothing Thanos did with the HotU was beyond Pre Retcon MM's power.
Pre Retcon MM ftw.
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Owen wins...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
👆Owen wins...
A possible exception being Post Retcon MM Unleashed. He got into a TRANSMULTIVERSAL throwdown with Post Retcon Beyonder. He'd put up a good fight vs Thanos with the HotU.
What would it matter if it weren't canon? It's still Living Tribunal. That's like saying the Beyonders killing Living Tribunal wasn't 616.
But Tom Breevort isn't comics, and Starlin has written like 3 or 4 different scenes pointing back to Marvel: The End as an event that happened. If Breevort can't even control his writers before he let's shit fly on the shelves, then what good is his whining about it? He could have came down and changed everything that has pointed to The End before it came out, but all he's done is whine about it on the internet. If he's so inept at his job, then why should his word count?
Among other reasons why Breevort is retarded to listen to. At least Quesada actually did things. All Tom seems to do is say stupid things and give Bendis way too much exposure.
Swift I know what you are saying,just like I don`t like the fact that Tom Defalco is the one who retconned the Beyonder and Molecule Man as soon as Jim Shooter left.and I really don`t know who did it a second time,making him a mutant inhuman subjected to the terrigen mists?How the hell did M.M get his power now?They better explain all of this in the new Secret Wars!
Beyonder and MM needed to be retconned though. What Breevort is trying to do is erase an event based purely off the title of a book. He thinks all "The End" titles have to be non canon even if Starlin just used the name and not the "genre"
And funny you should bring up Inhuman Beyonder considering what I said about Bendis. Bendis thought it was a good idea for Beyonder to be an Inhuman.
Thus proving my point that Breevort is terrible for giving him work. I think that's the year Breevort took over too.
I agree their needs to be a cosmic hierarchy in the universe.The Beyonder and Owen where like wild cards at first,but you knew they were going down eventually because they messed up the cosmic order.You knew they has to be retconned,every thought the Beyonder had had universal implications.Far worse is the D.C universe where myxy is practically god,but also a cosmic Idiot!I don`t know how the new Secret Wars is going ,but I hope the Beyonder and Owen are treated with respect and are very powerful beings,they deserve it!
Originally posted by zopzop
Pre Retcon MM? That dude fired off a blast capable of slagging several BILLION dimensions, gathered all the free energy in the multiverse to reinforce a force field he made to keep Beyonder out, was more powerful than all the multiversal powers combined, and was second only to Pre Retcon Beyonder in power.Nothing Thanos did with the HotU was beyond Pre Retcon MM's power.
Pre Retcon MM ftw.
This is a sacracstic joke yes? Then 😆 😆 😆
HOTU wins
Bendis
Originally posted by Branlor SwiftMaking the Beyonder an inhuman mutant exposed to the terrigon mists,is one of the worst ideas of all time.How did M.M get his powers now?He farted them through a wall at a nuclear power plant?
Beyonder and MM needed to be retconned though. What Breevort is trying to do is erase an event based purely off the title of a book. He thinks all "The End" titles have to be non canon even if Starlin just used the name and not the "genre"And funny you should bring up Inhuman Beyonder considering what I said about Bendis. Bendis thought it was a good idea for Beyonder to be an Inhuman.
Thus proving my point that Breevort is terrible for giving him work. I think that's the year Breevort took over too.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Oh so he could kill the LT and recreate the universe? 😆
MM Unleashed (aka post retcon MM) BEAT Post Retcon Beyonder in a one on one fight that was transmultiversal.
So yeah.......
Originally posted by zopzop
POST Retcon Beyonder's power, in Spiderman's hands, remade ALL creation. And Spiderman only had that power for a BILLIONTH of a SECOND.MM Unleashed (aka post retcon MM) BEAT Post Retcon Beyonder in a one on one fight that was transmultiversal.
So yeah.......
Thanos was equal to TOAA, so unless PR MM was equal to TOAA, HOTA has superiority.