Originally posted by zopzoplol , you really depend on the cheese don't you
POST Retcon Beyonder's power, in Spiderman's hands, remade ALL creation. And Spiderman only had that power for a BILLIONTH of a SECOND.MM Unleashed (aka post retcon MM) BEAT Post Retcon Beyonder in a one on one fight that was transmultiversal.
So yeah.......
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Thanos was equal to TOAA, so unless PR MM was equal to TOAA, HOTA has superiority.
Thanos with HotU was not equal to TOAA...
Thanos with HotU was not omniscient or omnipresent (two prereqs to be TOAA); Warlock being outside of space/time (thus undetectable by Thanos until he choose to show himself) was evidence enough of this...
If Thanos had truly been TOAA, nothing Warlock could have done would have placed him outside Thanos (and beyond his sphere of awareness)...
So again, no...Thanos with the HotU was not equal to TOAA.
And now to own your argument utterly, where was the HotU when it was found?
Within our reality...right?
Well, Classic Beyonder was stated on panel to be 1 million times stronger than everything in our reality combined...
The HotU aint impressive compared to Owen and the Beyonder...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderwhy would it hurt.
What zopzop stated was 100% fact...The truth hurts...doesnt it?
Neither did nothing either couldn't achieve.
The only difference Thanos was stated on panel as been the Supreme Being in Marvel.
If you want to go down your usual bullshit child route, Pre Retcon MM was hurt by Wolverine, Thanos tanked attacks from every abstract in Marvel at once
Originally posted by Insane Titan
why would it hurt.Neither did nothing either couldn't achieve.
The only difference Thanos was stated on panel as been the Supreme Being in Marvel.
If you want to go down your usual bullshit child route, Pre Retcon MM was hurt by Wolverine, Thanos tanked attacks from every abstract in Marvel at once
Typically Lord boo response; no wonder Quanchi looks down on you!
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Anyway, Owen was hurt by Wolvie prior to Doom helping him realize how powerful he truly was...
Peak Owen was capable of standing toe to toe with Classic Beyonder; No version of Thanos has a feat on that level...
Classic Owen wins...
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I like retroactively placing the Hotu within 616 so we can say Beyonder was greater than it. Even though he got retconned 20 years before the Hotu became a thing.So Beyonder can be a million times greater than it...
Well the HotU was present at the time of Secret Wars 1 and 2; Thanos just hadnt obtained it yet!
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Originally posted by TheLordofMurderstill no answer to my question troll.
Typically Lord boo response; no wonder Quanchi looks down on you!😂
Anyway, Owen was hurt by Wolvie prior to Doom helping him realize how powerful he truly was...
Peak Owen was capable of standing toe to toe with Classic Beyonder; No version of Thanos has a feat on that level...
Classic Owen wins...
His power didn't increase his durability to the lvl you think.
I think you mean been outclassed by Beyonder.
MM didn't show he could do anything HOTU did.
Originally posted by Insane Titan
still no answer to my question troll.His power didn't increase his durability to the lvl you think.
I think you mean been outclassed by Beyonder.
MM didn't show he could do anything HOTU did.
Owens durability (when he realized how powerful he truly was) was as great as he willed it to be; he was able to increase it to the point to where he was able to lockup with Classic Beyonder and hold his own for a short while...
Again, given how powerful Classic Beyonder was, this feat is far, far, FAR greater than Thanos tanking attacks from the Abstracts...
And Owen absolutely demostrated more power on panel than the HotU did; his feats performed while directly engaged with the Beyonder are a testament to it...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderso your argument is MM matching up to Beyonder and getting outclassed......is why he wins lol.
Owens durability (when he realized how powerful he truly was) was as great as he willed it to be; he was able to increase it to the point to where he was able to lockup with Classic Beyonder and hold his own for a short while...Again, given how powerful Classic Beyonder was, this feat is far, far, FAR greater than Thanos tanking attacks from the Abstracts...
And Owen absolutely demostrated more power on panel than the HotU did; his feats performed while directly engaged with the Beyonder are a testament to it...
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I like retroactively placing the Hotu within 616 so we can say Beyonder was greater than it. Even though he got retconned 20 years before the Hotu became a thing.So Beyonder can be a million times greater than it...
Its no different than Marvel retroactively placing a Celestial killing spell in Odins library prior to the events in Thor 300...
Besides for the HotU to be what it alledgely was, it would have to had been around when Classic Beyonder was a million times more powerful than everything combined...right?
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Originally posted by Insane Titan
so another troll response showing how inept you are.Show me anything MM did that Thanos couldn't feat wise.
Simple facts MM wasn't a real match for Beyonder so using that as a measuring stick is pure fail
The following is a feat of power infinitely beyond HotU's best:
^^ I'd have to bet on Beyonder's creation of the Beyond Realm as something outshining Thanos, not his battle with Owen,
although I'm not really saying Beyonder beats the HOTI or vice versa.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderThanos with HotU was not equal to TOAA...
"TOAA" can't be categorized because from what we know until now, "TOAA" is not even really a character,
it's always been depicted in one form or another as the representative avatars of the actual writers/artists of stories.
So imo, inconsequential concerning hierarchies and vs forums.
The next best thing, in Marvel, imo, THOTI! (canonically speaking)
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderThanos with HotU was not omniscient or omnipresent (two prereqs to be TOAA); Warlock being outside of space/time (thus undetectable by Thanos until he choose to show himself) was evidence enough of this...
If Thanos had truly been TOAA, nothing Warlock could have done would have placed him outside Thanos (and beyond his sphere of awareness)...
Thanos' awareness became omniversal:
Warlock had his special plot induced reasons for surviving, as did Miss D.
Originally posted by Insane Titan
so using a joint fest is your proof for MM 😂
Joint feat!?
Dude, either you are profoundly retarded (as Quanchi believes) or you are trolling ...
If you cant grasp the maginitude of what Owen accomplished in standing up to Classic Beyonder like that then Quanchi's stance on you may very well be accurate...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderyou don't even understand your own scan , they are fighting each other.
Joint feat!?Dude, either you are profoundly retarded (as Quanchi believes) or you are trolling ...
If you cant grasp the maginitude of what Owen accomplished in standing up to Classic Beyonder like that then Quanchi's stance on you may very well be accurate...
You sucking Quans cock only weakens your point.
Originally posted by Insane Titan
you don't even understand your own scan , they are fighting each other.You sucking Quans cock only weakens your point.
I fully undertstand my scan; Owen was able to temporarily match power with a being a million times stronger than Thanos with the HotU...
But things must be explained to one who's IQ is below 20...
When Thanos had the H.O T U. I thought he was more powerful than the gauntlet,and he most likely was.But even though he beat the abstracts,he only beat a sliver of the Tribunal.Making him Master of one universe,not the multi-verse like the Beyonders did!Korvac did the same thing in a what if from 1982(And the Tribunal was there,so it makes it canon.)Beat a sliver of the tribunal I mean one reality!
