Military veterans will suffer from GOP food stamp cuts

Originally posted by Star428
Thanks for the link. I read the article and it seems that those particular Marines were looking for payback for the killing of one of their own. They probably thought that insurgents and/or those responsible for the killing were hiding among those that they killed. It's not like they just decided to go and murder innocent civilians for fun.

In any case, one rogue incident of marines looking for retribution for the murder of one of their own is not indicative of the character of our entire military.

Nobody said it was. It's just not one rogue incident. The US military has been doing bad shit for years now. It being the minority of troops doesn't make it any less horrible.

Nobody is saying they're the sickest army in the world. But they're still an army.

Originally posted by Star428
Not that I necessarily disagree with EVERYTHING you say but yeah, American lives should be more important than Muslims. Just look at what muslim extremists are doing to people today. And please don't give me that "not all muslims are bad" BS. The ones who claim that they do not support ISIS wouldn't hesitate to side with them if ISIS attacked here in the US.

What, committing acts of terror and murdering innocent civilians? You mean... just what those US Marines did?

Also, poster is right who said that that area over there is a breeding ground for terrorists and other slime. I would never advocate the slaughtering of innocent women and children but if you knew anything about Marines you would know how they feel about one of their own being murdered. What they did was wrong, I agree, but it was an act of revenge not one of pure evil like a lot of people are making it out to be.

Who can blame them for becoming terrorists? After all, they have to deal with the US of A murdering their friends and families on a bloodthirsty whim. 👆

You can say "there was no evidence of insurgents there" all u like but maybe those marines who were filled with vengeful anger didn't think it thru and perhaps they thought that even if there was no evidence of insurgents there that those people they killed were possibly aiding them somehow.

Why do you feel that being angry justifies killing civilians, including the elderly and children?

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
I never said it did. It's called war, bad shit happens on both sides.

People act like things are just the **** and there is naked women running around handing out hand jobs.

Bad shit happens

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
A mother died trying to shield her daughter from the soldiers, who died immediately afterwards anyway. Men, women, children and elderly were all executed, mostly from close range, in cold blood. There was no evidence that they had anything to do with any insurgents, and the only gun that was found was a home defense AK-47 that had not been fired. The only reason they went out there was to avenge the soldier that had been killed earlier, whether those Iraqis had anything to do with the insurgents or not.

Those soldiers deserve to be put up against a wall and shot for what they did, but I guess since the lives of American soldiers are more valuable then brown Muslims and they shouldn't take any chance no matter the circumstances, who cares right?

Do innocent people die in war? Yes
Is there any possible way a "crime" scene was preserved at all in a small Iraqi village? Hell no

Originally posted by -Pr-
Tiger Force in Vietnam.

The American military has done plenty good. You just don't get to forget the bad and sweep it under the rug.

Pr, that was nearly 50 years ago. I thought we were talking about the current generation of our military. I'm sure we can dig up a ton of dirt on just about every nation's military in the world if we take into account their entire history and not just the current generation. I really don't think you wanna go there.

As I've already said, every military is always going to have some misguided and sick individuals but that's not representative of that entire country's military.

Originally posted by Star428
Pr, that was nearly 50 years ago. I thought we were talking about the current generation of our military. I'm sure we can dig up a ton of dirt on just about every nation's military in the world if we take into account their entire history and not just the current generation. I really don't think you wanna go there.

As I've already said, every military is always going to have some misguided and sick individuals but that's not representative of that entire country's military.

But we aren't talking about the military of other countries. It isn't some sort of competition to see which country has the biggest scumbags.

Nobody is saying it's representative of the entire military either, unless I missed a post. Just that the American military, even recently, has done some ****ed up things. They do plenty of good too, so it's not like they only do bad things. You just can't pretend the bad doesn't happen.

Acting like that it's a completely honourable, never questionable thing to be involved in, is the problem. There are many decent, wonderful people who sign up for the military for many reasons. Those people deserve nothing but respect.

You want to defend the American military? Go ahead. Just don't stick your fingers in your ears and pretend bad shit doesn't happen. Point out the good to balance things out.

I though this thread was about Republicans trying to lower welfare costs with people trying to use the Veterans as shields? How did it become European posters vs American Posters?

Blame krisblaze. If he hadn't made such an ignorant insult about men and women who choose to join the US military then this thread probably wouldn't have been derailed on the very first page. LOL. He just had to open his ignorant mouth.

Anyway, I'm done wasting my time arguing the same stuff over and over about things that aren't even related to the thread. Maybe that will help this thread get back on topic... Ignorant people can think whatever they like about our military (of course, they'll still cry for our help when they're in trouble, as usual) ... I'm done here.

Edit: I've added 3 people to ignore list from this thread alone. LOL. That's gotta be a record of some kind. At least that's one good thing that came out of thread (me setting a record). 🙂

Why does this clown think putting people on his ignore list is something worth bragging about?

Well, I think he's a cutie-pie.

Originally posted by Star428
Not that I necessarily disagree with EVERYTHING you say but yeah, American lives should be more important than Muslims. Just look at what muslim extremists are doing to people today. And please don't give me that "not all muslims are bad" BS. The ones who claim that they do not support ISIS wouldn't hesitate to side with them if ISIS attacked here in the US.

Also, poster is right who said that that area over there is a breeding ground for terrorists and other slime. I would never advocate the slaughtering of innocent women and children but if you knew anything about Marines you would know how they feel about one of their own being murdered. What they did was wrong, I agree, but it was an act of revenge not one of pure evil like a lot of people are making it out to be.

You can say "there was no evidence of insurgents there" all u like but maybe those marines who were filled with vengeful anger didn't think it thru and perhaps they thought that even if there was no evidence of insurgents there that those people they killed were possibly aiding them somehow.

Wow. But why not tell us how you really feel?

(seriously, who actually says this shit with a straight face?)

NeoCons.

Originally posted by -Pr-

Acting like that it's a completely honourable, never questionable thing to be involved in, is the problem.

Truth. Also dislike how any reservation on the military is some how viewed as "Un-American". I'm an American and very happy where I am but doesn't mean I have to agree and it shouldn't make me un-American for doing so.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
NeoCons.

I meant people.

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Originally posted by NemeBro
Why does this clown think putting people on his ignore list is something worth bragging about?

Originally posted by Tzeentch
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Dillan you son of a *****, What's the matter? The CIA got you pushing too many pencils?