Count Dooku runs a team gauntlet
1. Wolf Sazen, Darth Talon, Anoon Bondara
2. Eeth Koth, Vodo Siosk Baas, Darth Nihl
3. Quinlan Vos, Daegen Lok, IG-88
4. Ven Zallow, Rahm Kota, Darth Nihl
5. Savage Opress, Plo Koon, Aayla Secura
6. Ulic Qel Droma, Jaina Solo
7. Obi Wan ROTS, Darth Maul SOD
BOSS: Jacen Solo (The Swarm wars)/Luke (as of 1st duel with Lumiya)
Re: Count Dooku runs a team gauntlet
1. Wolf Sazen, Darth Talon, Anoon Bondara
- Wins with ease, any of them can be easily dispatched
2. Eeth Koth, Vodo Siosk Baas, Darth Nihl
- Vodo is the biggest threat here, but again neither Koth nor Nihil have the chops to defend against Dooku's powers.
3. Quinlan Vos, Daegen Lok, IG-88
- Dooku stomps
4. Ven Zallow, Rahm Kota, Darth Nihl
- Dooku wins, Kota charging in as he usually does will result in the same treatment Vader gave him. Nihil and Zallow are no match for Dooku
5. Savage Opress, Plo Koon, Aayla Secura
- Mmmm...this is a hard fight. In an enclosed setting...GG Dooku. But if its an open space with shit to toss around. Dooku secures a victory.
6. Ulic Qel Droma, Jaina Solo
- Probably the duo for the majority.
7. Obi Wan ROTS, Darth Maul SOD
- Solid win for Tyranus, Kenobi is a virtual non-factor as shown by him taking him to the curb twice even with Skywalker as back up.
BOSS: Jacen Solo (The Swarm wars)/Luke (as of 1st duel with Lumiya)
- Dooku'd probably lose to Luke alone.
1. is quite hard, but perhaps doable with proper use of the force.
2. he loses. Vodo is a tough solo fight for Exar Kun, Vodo with good backup is too much for Dooku. Even if he manages to take out one of the other two quick with force (probably Koth, Nihl can take a lot and get back up), he's still in big trouble.
3. he'd definitely win. Force take out IG, he knows Vos's style personal, easier than 1.
4. lose like 2.
5. I think a bit less strong than 2 and 4, but still, victory for the trio. Hard earned and probably with casualties though.
6. Both are dangerous individually, together is way too much.
7. Not as strong as 6, I'd lean to the duo, but Dooku does show surprising ease getting though Kenobi's defense, despite Kenobi's high level.
8. Duo
Q, Dooku would shred all but like 3 of the Legacy era. Not just beat, but shred. Krayt, Wyyrlok, and probably Cade are the only exceptions. Unless they're coming down on him in larger groups than 3-5, I don't see him really struggling with those mooks.
Originally posted by Col. Valerian
Eh, I think 3 combatants is too many. Difficult to say, honestly.
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Tell that to these gals.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Q, Dooku would shred all but like 3 of the Legacy era. Not just beat, but shred. Krayt, Wyyrlok, and probably Cade are the only exceptions. Unless they're coming down on him in larger groups than 3-5, I don't see him really struggling with those mooks.
One, I don't see Dooku 'shredding' council level people regardless of era. Beat them, to be sure, but it's not that easy.
Sure, only Krayt, Wyyrlok, and Cade are a good fight one on one, but things don't go from 'good fight one on one' directly down to 'not of much use even in a team of 3, alongside someone stronger' in one step. Council fighters are not mooks.
Two, note how in *zero* cases did I note the Legacy person as a deciding factor. In no case is the legacy fighter more than the second best on the team- well, except for scenario one, and they don't have enough power combined anyway.
Vodo is a tough fight one on one. Throw in two council members- one CW, one Legacy. That's trouble.
Ven Zallow's a good fight for Malgus. Throw in Nihl and Kota on top, again, a tough battle.
Re: Re: Count Dooku runs a team gauntlet
Stops at 5. Might stalemate there, but wouldn't be surprised if he goes down either. Just don't see him getting past it though.
Originally posted by Lord Stark
7. Obi Wan ROTS, Darth Maul SOD
- Solid win for Tyranus, Kenobi is a virtual non-factor as shown by him taking him to the curb twice even with Skywalker as back up.
You think so? I think if it was Kenobi and Ventress it would be a solid win for Dooku. But not so sure about Kenobi and Maul.
Maul's competence would make him better able to aid Kenobi than Skywalker ever did Imho, even though in a 1 v 1 Skywalker > Maul.
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Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Stops at 5. Might stalemate there, but wouldn't be surprised if he goes down either. Just don't see him getting past it though.You think so? I think if it was Kenobi and Ventress it would be a solid win for Dooku. But not so sure about Kenobi and Maul.
Maul's competence would make him better able to aid Kenobi than Skywalker ever did Imho, even though in a 1 v 1 Skywalker > Maul.
I think Dooku can take 5 but definetely a very hard fight. Dooku has a good chance to handle with Force anyone out of three. But at the same time all three are skilled enough not to be out-dueled easily.
Originally posted by Arhael
Yes, Kenobi is definitely not a non-factor. Dooku was lucky to be able to take out Kenobi with Force in RotS. In the previous encounter Dooku was unable to do it and retreated.I think Dooku can take 5 but definetely a very hard fight. Dooku has a good chance to handle with Force anyone out of three. But at the same time all three are skilled enough not to be out-dueled easily.
You have a funny way of remembering things. Dooku was not on the retreat for that whole fight, he was fighting pretty aggressively and he tossed Kenobi like a pimp tosses a whore who owes him money. He broke his ribs and nearly killed him by kicking him off the ramp. Kenobi was treated as a non-factor by Dooku in that due.
Originally posted by |King Joker|
Dooku is not "head over heels and beyond Kenobi in absolutely every way." They're similarly skilled duelists.
No they aren't Dooku broke Kenobi's ribs and nearly killed him on Oba Dia with no useage of the force. Just his raw combat skills. This is with Skywalker.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Stops at 5. Might stalemate there, but wouldn't be surprised if he goes down either. Just don't see him getting past it though.You think so? I think if it was Kenobi and Ventress it would be a solid win for Dooku. But not so sure about Kenobi and Maul.
Maul's competence would make him better able to aid Kenobi than Skywalker ever did Imho, even though in a 1 v 1 Skywalker > Maul.
I doubt it. Kenobi and Skywalker both know each other's forms inside and out. They have practiced for endless hours of sparring which is why Kenobi knew Anakin's form so well on Mustafar. Their synergy will be FAR superior to Maul and Kenobi.
Originally posted by Col. ValerianI didn't say he could defeat him, but Dooku would have to put in a lot of effort to break through his guard.
No. Kenobi is 1 tier below Dooku. He'll never be able to defeat him. He'll lose 10/10 against him.
Originally posted by Lord StarkKenobi and Anakin were basically tripping over each other. Neither Kenobi or Anakin were on their game. And Dooku using physical strikes is different from him going toe-to-toe with Kenobi in pure swordsmanship. I agree Dooku would defeat him, though.
No they aren't Dooku broke Kenobi's ribs and nearly killed him on Oba Dia with no useage of the force. Just his raw combat skills. This is with Skywalker.
Originally posted by Lord StarkI doubt it. Kenobi and Skywalker both know each other's forms inside and out. They have practiced for endless hours of sparring which is why Kenobi knew Anakin's form so well on Mustafar. Their synergy will be FAR superior to Maul and Kenobi.
Synergy's not quite what I was getting at.
Maul's Tk mastery for instance is quite beastly. Not as good as Dooku's but still very powerful. So I doubt Maul will just have to watch helplessly as Dooku Tk's Kenobi.
Also Maul's a tough combatant for Dooku. Dooku will beat him 1 v 1 but hardly with ease. So fighting off both Kenobi and Maul first, then finishing Kenobi would likely leave a less than 100% Dooku for Maul to face.
I also do feel people underestimate Kenobi's swordsmanship and overall prowess due to his performances against Dooku. End of the day Kenobi stalemated Vader in both ROTS and ANH, and has consistently stalemated Maul as well. And that's on his own. Here he has Maul at his currently known peak fighting alongside him.