Anakin Skywalker vs HoT

Started by carthage8 pages

Originally posted by Col. Valerian
Everyone knows that in that cartoon Jedi powers are greatly exaggerated. Anakin would never be able to replicate those feats anywhere else. Not in the movie, not in TCW, not in comics. On G-Canon he stalemates Obi-Wan during RotS. Yes, that was Vader, I know, but still. You're going to tell me Kenobi can do all those things, too?

And seriously, stop making this personal calling us 'Torbots' or whatever else you come up with. I acknowledge the power of PT and OT Jedi, if you've seen me post you should know that by now. I actually said Anakin would win this duel. Keep things civil and don't be a jerk.

It doesn't matter to me if you think they're "exaggerated. What has Hero done other than bring down rocks? You made the claim that the Hero has superior telekinetic feats, now back it up. I'm also loling @ the double standard, Bane hasn't replicate his telekinetic showings on nexuses yet that doesn't stop posters here from citing them as examples of his power in spite of him never replicating them anywhere.

Btw, here's that boulder feat I mentioned:

YouTube video

5.05. I think it's decent. That rocks about as tall as the hero and quite a bit longer. About large car size? And she does it multiple times while fighting colicoids. Just saying, its not like she has no TK feats.....

But of course, the big thing is beating Vitiate and ragdolling him. I really can't see an argument for freaking Anakin to overpower her when Vitiate couldn't. 😐

Originally posted by Nephthys

That dome was damaged by blasterfire and bringing down a dome isn't even that hard.

Considering the HoT has never done anything comparable, I fail to see how your opinion on how geometry works is relevant.

That's a little aggressive. The HoT is merely held back by limited exposure and by being mostly a defensive fighter instead of a Force mage. She's demonstrated power beyond Anakin's non-Mortis showings, resisting Sel Makor and Vitiate's mental attacks and other powers. Like I've pointed out, ragdolling Vitiate and defeating him is > Anakin in my estimation. And like I said, that's not Anakin's usual level of ability.

@Neph, Anakin and Kenobi lift/throw similar sized boulders in "Dooku Captured" when they're in the caves of Vanqor.

But the Hero ripped them out of the ceiling.

Originally posted by carthage
It doesn't matter to me if you think they're "exaggerated. What has Hero done other than bring down rocks? You made the claim that the Hero has superior telekinetic feats, now back it up. I'm also loling @ the double standard, Bane hasn't replicate his telekinetic showings on nexuses yet that doesn't stop posters here from citing them as examples of his power in spite of him never replicating them anywhere.

As usual, you ignore the points you can't refute (or at least apparently can't). In RotS, Anakin was only as good as Kenobi with TK. That's G-Canon, which trumps every other form of canon. That includes the pics you posted. So, unless you can prove to me Kenobi can replicate what Anakin did in the cartoon, your argument is rendered invalid.

The difference with Bane is that it has yet to be proven exactly how much a specific nexus amps the power of the Sith or Jedi. We can only guess. This isn't a nexus we're talking about here. It's a cartoon. Say whatever you want, but that cartoon mini-series does depict extremely exaggerated Force powers that have yet to be replicated anywhere else. If you can't see that, well, I honestly don't know what to tell you. I can acknowledge what I see in the cartoon as long as it's not contradicting higher canon. In this case, it is.

And honestly, what's the matter with you? I ask you to keep things civil and to avoid making this personal by acting like a jerk and calling people names and you don't even respond to that. And you keep 'loling' at people's arguments. Shitty attitude.

Originally posted by Nephthys
But the Hero ripped them out of the ceiling.

Originally posted by Lord Stark

There's only so much of your bullshit I can take Neph, stick to TOR in terms of ranking characters. Anakin collapses a massive dome with a screen, moves massive weapon platforms, and huge statues. MaulThe Hero isn't on his level.

Originally posted by Nephthys
But the Hero ripped them out of the ceiling.
True, but Anakin lifted about 4 or 5 of similar sized boulders off of him, and lifted about 5 or 6 effortlessly trying to defend against a gundark. Personally, I find that more impressive than what Hero did in the video you linked.

I'd also like to note that Dooku collapsed a pretty massive cave entrance in the same episode.

The Hero defeated and ragdolled the guy who shitstomped Revan.

Also I checked out the episode and those rocks weren't as big.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
True, but Anakin lifted about 4 or 5 of similar sized boulders off of him, and lifted about 5 or 6 effortlessly trying to defend against a gundark. Personally, I find that more impressive than what Hero did in the video you linked.

I'd also like to note that Dooku collapsed a pretty massive cave entrance in the same episode.

They weren't similar sized. Collectively they were about as big. And the rocks they threw at the gundark weren't as big either. Besides, all I said was that it was a decent feat. I just wanted to prove the Hero has some good TK feats and isn't completely featless.

Dooku is stronger than Anakin though.

They were pretty big, dude.

YouTube video

Were they? Obi-Wan throws one thats a bit smaller than him. The rest seemed similarly sized.

Originally posted by Col. Valerian
t that cartoon mini-series does depict extremely exaggerated Force powers that have yet to be replicated anywhere else. If you can't see that, well, I honestly don't know what to tell you. I can acknowledge what I see in the cartoon as long as it's not contradicting higher canon. In this case, it is.

I'm not sure if that's a good policy tbh. 90% percent of EU contradicted the higher canon.

Besides, everything apart from the movies in now non-canon. It's a free for all.

@Neph, the boulders Anakin lifts at 0:32 each was probably a little bit smaller than the one Hero ripped from the ceiling, but collectively they're clearly quite a bit larger, IMO.

The one Kenobi lifted seems smaller to me.

I can barely see the boulders at 0.32. They don't look collectively larger. And he's just lifting them.

Like I said though, I don't care. I only said as powerful with TK and afterwards I only mentioned that feat to shut Newguy up about the Hero not having any impressive TK feats.

Marco's video quality is shit, go watch it on Netflix.

Okay, then.

I'm thinking Anakin wins the boulder toss game.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/124590/4109496-8993656439-21391.jpg

For a gauge of how large the droid and boulder were:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/124590/4109497-2730731731-21391.jpg

Originally posted by ILS
I'm thinking Anakin wins the boulder toss game.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/124590/4109496-8993656439-21391.jpg

For a gauge of how large the droid and boulder were:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/124590/4109497-2730731731-21391.jpg


Nice find. 👆

Anakin > HoT

Was originally posted by Silver to my knowledge,

Originally posted by ILS
I'm thinking Anakin wins the boulder toss game.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/124590/4109496-8993656439-21391.jpg

For a gauge of how large the droid and boulder were:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/124590/4109497-2730731731-21391.jpg

Uh, that second thing looks like perspective being funny. In the top panel he's the same size as those droids. The bottom one the droid is just closer to the perspective.

Also, lol a comparison between two feats doesn't prove either is better than the other flat out. Like I've repeatedly pointed out, the Hero has better TK feats than the boulder thing. 🙄