Lol now we're arguing what is more exaggerated? Seriously, nothing in the SW mythos is more exaggerated like what we see in that specific cartoon. And you know it. TOR or the novels don't even compare, let alone the movies. I'll give you videogames, such as KOTOR or KOTOR 2. But that's about it. Nothing tops the exaggeration seen in that mini-series.
As usual, you ignore the points you can't refute (or at least apparently can't). In RotS, Anakin was only as good as Kenobi with TK. That's G-Canon, which trumps every other form of canon. That includes the pics you posted. So, unless you can prove to me Kenobi can replicate what Anakin did in the cartoon, your argument is rendered invalid.
You haven't made any point at all you made the claim Hero has superior TK, failed to support it and or offer any superior feats to the ones I posted. Also this is an EU forum and the whole "G Cannon" appeal to authority fallacy is bunk. By your own logic Anakin wins by default since he's the only one to even exist in this fight, if you wanted to appeal to cannon (which is only the movies/novels relating to the movies/TCW show/Rebels/SOD comics. Also good for Kenobi that he stalemated Anakin?, that doesn't mean he's even with him in power. Anakin has superior telekinetic feats to Kenobi, and Kenobi has been constantly taken out by force users like Savage/Ventress/Maul all who have lesser telekinetic feats. You've provided nothing for Hero except him lifting boulders.
The difference with Bane is that it has yet to be proven exactly how much a specific nexus amps the power of the Sith or Jedi. We can only guess. This isn't a nexus we're talking about here. It's a cartoon. Say whatever you want, but that cartoon mini-series does depict extremely exaggerated Force powers that have yet to be replicated anywhere else. If you can't see that, well, I honestly don't know what to tell you. I can acknowledge what I see in the cartoon as long as it's not contradicting higher canon. In this case, it is.
You're backtracking earlier you claimed that since Anakin can't replicate those showings, that somehow they're completely out of his ability to perform.
Anakin even without his OCW feats has collapsed a massive dome, moved a massive skiff, ragdolled Ventress, sent Dooku flying, ragdolled Barriss Offee, and still has superior telekinetic showings that occur without the need for amps. Calling a feat "exaggerated" when the character has shown power similar to that showing is bad logic, and that's still on top of not being a cohesive argument to begin with. Anakin has showings that are still comparable to his OCW feats, and still has the accolades to substantiate them. Bane off world has vastly inferior telekinetic showings that prove that the amp was substantial, i,e comparing toppling a temple to breaking boxes/tents on Ruusan/ hurling a massive stone on Dxun but only being able to throw couches/kill featless Sith lords. You can deny a nexus all you want, you're the only one cherrypicking evidence.
And honestly, what's the matter with you? I ask you to keep things civil and to avoid making this personal by acting like a jerk and calling people names and you don't even respond to that. And you keep 'loling' at people's arguments. Shitty attitude.
Ok?
TOR hasn't been stated to be exaggerated like that cartoon has. Unless there's some proof that it's exaggerated, all that's nothing but baseless whinging. And there isn't explicit inconsistencies between characters portrayals in TOR and other works. There is for that CW cartoon. In the vast majority of their portrayals, the characters don't possess the levels shown in CW 2003. This is a completely false comparison and a point utterly without merit.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Even after all this time, you have the discretion of an avalanche. Might as well come out and say "I REALLY REALLY WANT ALL THE PT CHARACTERS TO SUCK!!!"Have the antics of Carthage and co. truly weathered away all pretense from you at this point? mmm
PT characters won't suck without the 2003 feats. You know they can still be competitive with their feats in other materials, as this thread has demonstrated quite well. They already have the advantage of having more feats on an individual basis than most era's have combined. There's no need to rely on ridiculous outliers to establish their levels. Don't act as if I'm taking away your toys when the decks already stacked in your favor.
This has been a stance I've held for years, I'm not sure why you're so deluded in thinking this is a sudden transformation of mine. That I believe the most powerful Jedi in the swtor era is better than Obi-Wan Kenobi doesn't indicate some incredible duplicity on my part.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Even after all this time, you have the discretion of an avalanche. Might as well come out and say "I REALLY REALLY WANT ALL THE PT CHARACTERS TO SUCK!!!"Have the antics of Carthage and co. truly weathered away all pretense from you at this point? mmm
So much win.
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Hero of Tython wins this one.
She has more experience than Anakin in lightsabre duelling, has defeated a greater range of opponents and is most likely edges him out in technical skill too.
More importantly, she's smarter and a better tactician. Anakin's usual approach is charge in and hack away (he is capable of coming up with smart moves such as when he out-maneuvered Dooku and cut his hands off in ROTS but that isn't his usual MO). HoT can outwit and outfight him.
Also it's pretty sad how you people keep belittling Nephthys just for having his own opinions.
"I REALLY REALLY WANT ALL THE PT CHARACTERS TO SUCK!!!" indeed. Just because he has a different opinion to you. Grow the heck up.
Nepthys, I salute you. Good for you on staying true to what you think.
I seriously don't understand how you people can say it's fine to just dismiss a canon source. The only person who's "exaggerated" in that is Windu, everyone else has perfectly matched showings in the rest of the EU.
Anakin ragdolled Ventress like she was nothing, and outdueled count Dooku pretty hastily. He is above the HOT in every way.