Originally posted by Nephthys
Lol.
Tyranus and Maul can slowly but surely take this fight.
Originally posted by AncientPower
They are both on another tier of ability with a lightsaber than anyone on team 2. They are faster than anyone on team 2 by a tier or better. Their Force Powers are the only thing that they may need to worry about.Tyranus and Maul can slowly but surely take this fight.
Well they're not. Aaaand, they're not. So I'm sticking with "lol". And even if those two things were true, which they absolutely aren't, the Hero and Scourge are still good enough to tank for Zannah while she pwns Maul and Dooku with sorcery. Something neither of them could adequately defend against just in a 1 on 1. While facing the Hero and Scourge and then getting mindf*cked (which I'll remind you brought Darth Mother****ing Bane to his knee's, whose willpower and mental strength far eclipses these two) while fighting them, they have no chance in hell.
Darth Tyranus and Darth Maul are two of the greatest duelists ever, so yes they are, easily. No one on team 2 has speed feats that even approach those of Maul or Tyranus.
I am curious however to see how exactly Zannah's "sorcery" is going to win this for team 2.
Her only significant Sorcery feat was amped by Lake Nath beyond that she has only TP feats which are laughably negligible against Maul.
Dooku himself is a master of manipulating emotions via Dun Moch and Talzin's far superior sorcery didn't one shot him or actually defeat him in any sense beyond her spirit attack.
Team 2 is severely outmatched in augmentation and lightsaber feats. Force frats are the only thing preventing a stomp. Team 2 can delay the inevitable, that is essentially as far as their feats go.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Darth Tyranus and Darth Maul are two of the greatest duelists ever, so yes they are, easily. No one on team 2 has speed feats that even approach those of Maul or Tyranus.I am curious however to see how exactly Zannah's "sorcery" is going to win this for team 2.
Her only significant Sorcery feat was amped by Lake Nath beyond that she has only TP feats which are laughably negligible against Maul.
Dooku himself is a master of manipulating emotions via Dun Moch and Talzin's far superior sorcery didn't one shot him or actually defeat him in any sense beyond her spirit attack.
Team 2 is severely outmatched in augmentation and lightsaber feats. Force frats are the only thing preventing a stomp. Team 2 can delay the inevitable, that is essentially as far as their feats go.
And obviously none of these guys are skilled swordsman or anything. Scourge? Pffft, unchallenged for 300 years. Killed thousands of Jedi and Sith. Immensely powerful and artificially amped from 3 different sources. What a noob. And the Hero of Tython I mean whatever. Legendarily powerful and skilled, pwning Jedi Masters out the gate as a padawan. The best swordsman in the martial peak of the Old Republic era. Chewed through legions of Sith and Imperial Guards on Dromund Kaas and beat the Emperor. Lame. Both of these guys are obviously also two of the best duelists in history. And neither Maul or Dooku has what it takes to get through Zannah's defense. So no, they're not. Not easily. Scourge has outraced mounted cannon-fire that's designed to be capable of targeting and firing at 300+ mph. He's pretty fast, even in the books. 300 years and 3 amps later? I really doubt they have an edge on him. And the Hero is better than him and has feats of blitzing Sith which is easily comparable to either of those two's feats.
Lmao. Yeah, putting sorcery in airquotes really makes it seem less impressive. Like I said, even if it doesn't take them out directly, her mental attacks are extremely painful and debilitating. Bane, who laughed off Kaan's mental influence (the guy who could mentally enslave and influence hundreds of Sith) and has performed numerous feats of immense will power surpassing Dooku's (lol Talzin pwned) and even Maul's, was still brought to his knees by her base level attack. Dooku and Maul would surely be just as impeded. And thus be easy kills for her team-mates.
I'm pretty sure Don Moch isn't anything like Zannah's sorcery attack and lol, sure he didn't die but he was writhing in agony. I'm sure he can definitely beat the Hero of Tython while weeping on the floor. 👆
I doubt it. Scourge of 300 years ago was already an extremely talented and fast duelist. Peak Scourge has matured into his immense potential, obviously massively sharpened his skills and biochemical enhancements, a Vitiate amp and can draw on the emotions of Dooku and Maul to get stronger. And the Hero greatly eclipses even him.
It's really good? How would they get through? Dooku isn't aggressive enough to pressure her past her point of deflecting all his attacks and Maul's not pulling out anything Bane couldn't. Its a neutral environment so I'm assuming there's nothing for them to back her up into or anything.
We always have this conversation and your argument is always "they get through because they're really good, screw details and practical thought".