Hercules vs. Annihilus

Started by krisblaze5 pages

Without the rod Annihilus' got some good and some bad feats.

A couple of times it looks like he's about to wreck the F4, other times he's been taken down by far less.

Loeb's F4 run comes to mind.

So is Ann above Herc before the gamma incident? Marvel has the worst strength fluctuations ever. (Black Panther being stronger than, Annihilus, Ronan, Glads and Super Skrull).

Without Rod and Amp- Herc
With-Annihilus

Originally posted by Insane Titan
he easily owned Nova Prime and Quasar together, and was before he took the quantum bands for Quasar.

That's not his norm. That was HIS event btw, anyway quasar was a scrub and nova a rookie with his new powerset. Not taking anything away from the feat just do see a need to dick ride when its not his average.

Originally posted by Stoic
Based on the Hulk being stronger than Herc, and Anni appearing to be stronger than the Hulk. Then you have the CCR, which is standard equipment for him as Mjolnir is standard equipment for Thor. So yeah he's above Herc's weight class, with or without the CCR. The same question can be asked about Herc. When has he ever towered above two opponents as powerful as Nova Prime, and Quasar? This was without the gamma buff. If Herc can crack the carapace, then he has a chance, but that's pretty unlikely.

Abc logic ftw i see. Well one its arguable who's stronger. There's definitely no definitive answer. I already said herc would lose if he had the ccr, without it is a completely different match. This aint ben the bug is facing

It's debatable who's stronger?

Originally posted by carver9
It's debatable who's stronger?

You have on panel definitive (not subjective Phucking definitive) proof that the current incarnation of hulk or annihilus or whomever you're alluding to is stronger than classic immortal Hercules?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
That's not his norm. That was HIS event btw, anyway quasar was a scrub and nova a rookie with his new powerset. Not taking anything away from the feat just do see a need to dick ride when its not his average.

Abc logic ftw i see. Well one its arguable who's stronger. There's definitely no definitive answer. I already said herc would lose if he had the ccr, without it is a completely different match. This aint ben the bug is facing

him with the rod is his average.

Read through his feats, its his average

Originally posted by Sin I AM
You have on panel definitive (not subjective Phucking definitive) proof that the current incarnation of hulk or annihilus or whomever you're alluding to is stronger than classic immortal Hercules?

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Really? It has been said and depicted too many times that Hulk is physically above Herc. Someone actually provided this evidence to you not too long ago. It's funny that you even think Herc is stronger or as strong as Hulk.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
him with the rod is his average.

Read through his fears it's his average


His average with the rod is not easily killing Quasar though...

Annihilus' having the rod on average doesn't mean that every showing of him with the rod is average.

Originally posted by krisblaze
His average with the rod is not easily killing Quasar though...

Annihilus' having the rod on average doesn't mean that every showing of him with the rod is average.

I'm talking about how formidable he is though

Originally posted by Insane Titan
him with the rod is his average.

Read through his feats, its his average

Im talking about him beating quasar n nova. That aint his average.

Originally posted by carver9
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Really? It has been said and depicted too many times that Hulk is physically above Herc. Someone actually provided this evidence to you not too long ago. It's funny that you even think Herc is stronger or as strong as Hulk.

Show me

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Im talking about him beating quasar n nova. That aint his average.

Show me

Show you what?

Originally posted by carver9
Show you what?

Hulk since thats your flagship character being over immortal herc

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Hulk since thats your flagship character being over immortal herc

Why do I need to show you IMMORTAL Herc when he isn't in this thread?

Sigh

Well we could go with Herc's solo greatest on panel strength feat. Was it when he lifted Manhattan? If so Savage Hulk's is far greater. Herc is strong, so please don't make me seem like I'm low balling him, he just isn't as strong as the Hulk, and has never been referred to being the strongest being on the planet.

Originally posted by krisblaze
His average with the rod is not easily killing Quasar though...

Annihilus' having the rod on average doesn't mean that every showing of him with the rod is average.

Wait a minute. So literally eating Quasar for breakfast, and keeping him constantly on the run doesn't mean easily beating him? Annihilus ate him alive, and would have done the same thing to Nova Prime if he hadn't escaped.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Im talking about him beating quasar n nova. That aint his average.

Show me

his highs out weigh his lows, so that equals out at his average

Hercules beat about 9 100 ton strengths with the help of Amadeus's calculations at once. With his mace he should be able to disembowl nearly anyone. Look how easily he took out Warlocke of the New Mutants and he is like planetairy level.

Originally posted by Wonder Man
Hercules beat about 9 100 ton strengths with the help of Amadeus's calculations at once. With his mace he should be able to disembowl nearly anyone. Look how easily he took out Warlocke of the New Mutants and he is like planetairy level.

That's nice, but Annihilus is above his strength level at this moment in time, and he still has the CCR as standard equipment. Hercules will not win this.

Originally posted by carver9
Why do I need to show you IMMORTAL Herc when he isn't in this thread?

Immortal Herc is Marvel's standard Herc, actually...

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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Immortal Herc is Marvel's standard Herc, actually...

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In order to know that he would have to read comics.