Is Marvel dominating DC

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Originally posted by Juntai
Agreed, pretty much anything Lego is fire.
It's a shame I have a hard time bringing myself to play the games since they seem to have a crazy amount of story content. ****ing Lego title and holding me back

Though the Arkham games are just the tops. Marvel hasn't had a good game in a long time.

i absolutely loved the injustice game... the marvel lego game was...ok. i agree there is a lot of story content though. i just liked the injustice story i guess. i would love it if they brought out a second one with some new characters. can't believe they haven't given how popular it was. /shrug

Originally posted by leonidas
i absolutely loved the injustice game... the marvel lego game was...ok. i agree there is a lot of story content though. i just liked the injustice story i guess. i would love it if they brought out a second one with some new characters. can't believe they haven't given how popular it was. /shrug
They're working on Mortal Kombat X. Then they'll probably go back to Injustice, then probably go back to MK. That seems to be the pattern that's going to happen.

Also I bought the Lego Star Wars game covering all the movies. I haven't opened it yet but I'm scared to play it primarily due to it being Lego. But sweet Jesus all the movies! One day I'll check it out
I know Pr raves about the Batman ones though.

i thought i'd hate the lego games but they aren't too bad. i thought the lego movie was surprisingly good too... of course, i was expecting it to be turrible....

It's basically been said already but yeah, Marvel's unified approach in regards to tv/movies etc is a huge boon for them.

While it's not an issue now, when DC's cinematic universe comes out I'm almost certain there will be people confused by the multiple versions of things between that and their Arrow/Flash shows. Not places like here where people follow this stuff in far more detail, but in general.

In regards to the actual quality of the shows, I can't speak for Agent Carter but Agents of Shield has massively improved from where it started. Plus Daredevil looks like it's going to be awesome. Flash is really, really good but Arrow makes my teeth hurt at times as it tries to be Batman. I still haven't finished Constantine but was enjoying it to some extent, but as a huge Hellblazer fan there were bits of it that annoyed me, but I think when assessing these shows and movies and stuff we as comic fans need to step back a bit and be a bit less critical about specifics. I mean lets be honest, Marvel/DC now have a much bigger audience to appeal to than just comic readers. Whether it's a good or bad thing that they're doing that is personal opinion.

But yeah in movies I think it's almost impossible to say DC are ahead, at least in terms of public appeal and success. I mean they're slowly building their universe but honestly I think it has issues. Personally for me Superman and the JLA don't need to be darker and grittier, I mean it's Superman ffs. Sure Batman can work that way, and you look at his best stories and they are darker affairs. But look at the best Superman stories and you get things like All-Star, Birthright etc which are pretty bright affairs. Sure they can be serious at times, but I think people have a tendency to confuse that with 'dark and edgy'.

Just my two cents.

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
It's basically been said already but yeah, Marvel's unified approach in regards to tv/movies etc is a huge boon for them.

While it's not an issue now, when DC's cinematic universe comes out I'm almost certain there will be people confused by the multiple versions of things between that and their Arrow/Flash shows. Not places like here where people follow this stuff in far more detail, but in general.

In regards to the actual quality of the shows, I can't speak for Agent Carter but Agents of Shield has massively improved from where it started. Plus Daredevil looks like it's going to be awesome. Flash is really, really good but Arrow makes my teeth hurt at times as it tries to be Batman. I still haven't finished Constantine but was enjoying it to some extent, but as a huge Hellblazer fan there were bits of it that annoyed me, but I think when assessing these shows and movies and stuff we as comic fans need to step back a bit and be a bit less critical about specifics. I mean lets be honest, Marvel/DC now have a much bigger audience to appeal to than just comic readers. Whether it's a good or bad thing that they're doing that is personal opinion.

But yeah in movies I think it's almost impossible to say DC are ahead, at least in terms of public appeal and success. I mean they're slowly building their universe but honestly I think it has issues. Personally for me Superman and the JLA don't need to be darker and grittier, I mean it's Superman ffs. Sure Batman can work that way, and you look at his best stories and they are darker affairs. But look at the best Superman stories and you get things like All-Star, Birthright etc which are pretty bright affairs. Sure they can be serious at times, but I think people have a tendency to confuse that with 'dark and edgy'.

Just my two cents.

It's really not that big of a deal. Most of the movie goers that will watch the DC cinematic movies don't even watch the shows. A small fraction do and some might be confused and some will.

Just like most of the people who watched Avengers don't watch Agents of SHIELD.

i thought constantine was GETTING there...it had some promise so we'll see how it pans out. i agree that shield got better as well--a little edgier maybe. i still like arrow and flash better than shield, and maybe constantine too. couldn't bring myself to watch carter for some reason. maybe blame our own carver....? heh

Originally posted by riv6672
No.

YES, and in EVERY manner possible.

Originally posted by leonidas
i thought constantine was GETTING there...it had some promise so we'll see how it pans out. i agree that shield got better as well--a little edgier maybe. i still like arrow and flash better than shield, and maybe constantine too. couldn't bring myself to watch carter for some reason. maybe blame our own carver....? heh

Sometimes SHIELD can feel like a chore to get through. Can't wait to see Titans, TBH.

Originally posted by leonidas
i thought constantine was GETTING there...it had some promise so we'll see how it pans out. i agree that shield got better as well--a little edgier maybe. i still like arrow and flash better than shield, and maybe constantine too. couldn't bring myself to watch carter for some reason. maybe blame our own carver....? heh
Took Constantine about 5 episodes to hit its stride because of the girl changing after the first episode. I think she got another job or was cut and they had to shoe in the new girl?
Once it got rolling it was excellent though.

While I was getting to enjoy Constantine, I really felt like they completely missed the point of Constantine and Chas' friendship, and a much smaller gripe but at times Constantine was too flashy with magic. And I guess some of the more interesting stuff in Hellblazer isn't really adapted, although I will say that a) some of that would be harder on tv and b) some of it is somewhat tied to when Hellblazer was written. But that's because I'm firmly in the Vertigo/Hellblazer being >>> DcnU Constantine though.

Also I feel like they were going to run into issues as they moved towards an adaptation of American Gothic, which is a Swamp Thing arc for a reason. While Constantine is important in it it really doesn't work as an arc without Swamp Thing. Then again I still haven't seen the last couple of episodes so maybe they change it enough for it to work.

All that being said I was really enjoying it, they really got John as a character and had a lot of cool stuff, I might just be slightly bitter as a Brit that it's not in London/the UK which is hugely important to the character and many of the stories.

But again, despite gripes I was enjoying it quite a lot.

Re: Is Marvel dominating DC

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Debate!

Re: Is Marvel dominating DC

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Debate!

I am a huge Marvel Fan.

Marvel to me dominates in Comics, Toys (Marvel Legends, Marvel Select)

DC absolutely kills Marvel when it comes to cartoons. I don't even like DC, but their cartoons are some of the most comic accurate stories I have ever seen. Same goes for the live action shows.

To be fair the live action Marvel shows are not comic accurate so maybe that is why I do not like them.

Hadn't seen you in a while prime

Originally posted by Damborgson
Hadn't seen you in a while prime

Been getting fat and lazy lol!!!!

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Been getting fat and lazy lol!!!!
Good thing you're back on the internet then.

Tbf it's got to the point where it looks implausible that Marvel will ever do better animation than DC.

I mean X-men/Spider-man TAS in the 90s were good, but even those were eclipsed by the Batman/Superman TAS', and then JL/JLU in the same continuity were to such a high standard I'm not sure Marvel will ever make something to beat them.

I mean Earth's Mightiest Heroes was great but then they cancelled it and replaced it with something worse.

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Tbf it's got to the point where it looks implausible that Marvel will ever do better animation than DC.

I mean X-men/Spider-man TAS in the 90s were good, but even those were eclipsed by the Batman/Superman TAS', and then JL/JLU in the same continuity were to such a high standard I'm not sure Marvel will ever make something to beat them.

I mean Earth's Mightiest Heroes was great but then they cancelled it and replaced it with something worse.

Superman didn't eclipse Spiderman or X-men.

But Marvel basically gave up on small screen stuff, while DC didn't, which is why the current state of things has occurred.

Eh fair point, Superman wasn't as good as Batman but it was still up there with Spider-man and X-men, imo at least.

X-Men was good, but not great. I don't think it aged as good as Batman or Superman cartoons. Spider-Man was better, IMO.