Legolas vs Captain America

Started by relentless123 pages

H2h Legolas would win, he's got daggers and he's very hard to tag, I could see him artfully dodging or parrying all of Caps attacks, ranged goes to Legolas, sure Cap has blocked machine gun fire but it was all aimed at one location, Legolas isn't going to shoot the same place twice and he certainly isn't aiming for that shield, he'd hit an arm or a leg before Cap gets to him

Originally posted by relentless1
Cap throwing the motorcycle doesnt count, if you watch the trailer the throw is achieved my momentum, not brute strength

Just watched it again. Seems like the speed the motorcycle is travelling is slightly slower than the speed Cap throws it at. So while he used the momentum it had, it's still a show of agility and super-human strength to flip the bike up and throw it flying forward.

ie it does indeed "count" as a film feat

Originally posted by relentless1
H2h Legolas would win, he's got daggers and he's very hard to tag, I could see him artfully dodging or parrying all of Caps attacks,

Cap **** stomps Legolas in h2h. He is far stronger and far faster.

Watching the motorcycle scene again, hard to tell for sure, but it looks like Cap hits the brakes, uses the momentum transferred to flip himself over and then lifts and throws the bike using mostly all brute strength.

I'd say Cap is stronger than Legolas by as much as Legolas is more agile than Cap. Legolas would probably struggle with lifting a motorcycle and 3 women above his head and Cap would struggle scaling and taking down the war mammoth on his own.

At a distance, Legolas has the advantage. Cap hasn't faced a marksman as good as Legolas and the elf will have multiple arrows on hand whereas Cap will only have his shield. Throwing the shield won't be wise since Legolas is probably nimble enough to avoid it.

Melee could go either way. I think Cap is more skilled h2h and stronger, but it will be the first time he's fought someone as nimble as the elf utilizing 2 swords against him. I'd like to say Cap will win due to his slightly more impressive melee feats, but it's too close to call. From experience I can say that 2 swords are a lot harder to fight against than 1 shield.

H2h is Cap's best option. The only h2h feat I recall for Legolas was his fight against Bolg. And while it was a great display of strength, it can't match Cap's showings in skill. Legolas will put up a fight but Cap eventualy wrecks him.

He had some beastly h2h here as well.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nM7byUTrSZA

Most of those were melee with weapons, not strictly h2h as in unarmed combat.

Yes. H2H and Melee are two different things. That brawl between Legolas and Bolg was H2H for the most part.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Most of those were melee with weapons, not strictly h2h as in unarmed combat.

Agreed. Don't think we have anything of him using h2h. Mainly swords and arrows.

Originally posted by KingD19
Yes. H2H and Melee are two different things. That brawl between Legolas and Bolg was H2H for the most part.

True. Don't think he could beat Cap in straight up h2h which is the reason I gave him all of his equipment.

Cap eats this fruit alive.

So yeah, I stick by my original view.

Long range: Legolas wins
Melee w/ weapons: Toss up
H2H: Cap wins

Originally posted by FrothByte
So yeah, I stick by my original view.

Long range: Legolas wins
Melee w/ weapons: Toss up
H2H: Cap wins

But Cap could block the arrows and just close in.

He was blocking bullets from Bucky at point blank range with that shield.

Originally posted by Mindset
But Cap could block the arrows and just close in.

He's never faced as skilled a marksman as Legolas so although I'm sure he can block most of the arrows, I doubt he can block all. Plus, Legolas can just dance away to keep distance and when he runs out of arrows he can double back and pick some up.

That's assuming of course that Legolas is smart enough to keep his distance. He's probably arrogant enough to go to melee with Cap. Cap's biggest risk is if decides to shield throw. Legolas would dodge that and then Cap would be weaponless.

Until the shield bounces off something and cracks Legolas in the back of the head.

The shield is not a homing rocket. Cap uses angles to compute where it goes. If it misses its target the first time it's not like Mjolnir that will just come back at you.

Originally posted by FrothByte
He's never faced as skilled a marksman as Legolas so although I'm sure he can block most of the arrows, I doubt he can block all. Plus, Legolas can just dance away to keep distance and when he runs out of arrows he can double back and pick some up.

That's assuming of course that Legolas is smart enough to keep his distance. He's probably arrogant enough to go to melee with Cap. Cap's biggest risk is if decides to shield throw. Legolas would dodge that and then Cap would be weaponless.

Winter Soldier is a skilled marksman and he uses a gun.

Bullet > arrow

I doubt Cap would throw the shield while being attacked with arrows.

Originally posted by Mindset
Winter Soldier is a skilled marksman and he uses a gun.

Bullet > arrow

I doubt Cap would throw the shield while being attacked with arrows.

Did Cap block sustained fire from Winter Soldier? He blocked a few shots and that was it. Besides, what accuracy feats does WS have that compare to Legolas?

Originally posted by FrothByte
So yeah, I stick by my original view.

Long range: Legolas wins
Melee w/ weapons: Toss up
H2H: Cap wins

i can almost agree with that, h2h is the toss up and melee goes to legolas, same with range IMO