Religion of "peace" strikes again

France's Macron issues 'republican values' ultimatum to Muslim leaders

"President Macron has also announced new measures to tackle what he called "Islamist separatism" in France.

The measures include a wide-ranging bill that seeks to prevent radicalisation. It was unveiled on Wednesday, and includes measures such as:

Restrictions on home-schooling and harsher punishments for those who intimidate public officials on religious grounds

Giving children an identification number under the law that would be used to ensure they are attending school. Parents who break the law could face up to six months in jail as well as large fines

A ban on sharing the personal information of a person in a way that allows them to be located by people who want to harm them"

Lol

Originally posted by Surtur
France's Macron issues 'republican values' ultimatum to Muslim leaders

[b]"President Macron has also announced new measures to tackle what he called "Islamist separatism" in France.

The measures include a wide-ranging bill that seeks to prevent radicalisation. It was unveiled on Wednesday, and includes measures such as:

Restrictions on home-schooling and harsher punishments for those who intimidate public officials on religious grounds

Giving children an identification number under the law that would be used to ensure they are attending school. Parents who break the law could face up to six months in jail as well as large fines

A ban on sharing the personal information of a person in a way that allows them to be located by people who want to harm them"

Lol [/B]

Living in the US is kind of nice. We have more freedom.

It sure escalated quickly. You'd think just reducing or all together stopping the flow of refugees into france might be a good place to start. You would be wrong apparently.

Islamophobia is a term made up by the Left to shut down any and all criticisms on Islam and Muslims.

Originally posted by wxyz
Islamophobia is a term made up by the Left to shut down any and all criticisms on Islam and Muslims.

I think there are legitimately people who are mortally afraid of Muslims.

But there are other types who are just bigots/idiots who hate "not Christians."

And then there is a third group who is not actually afraid of Islam or muslims and does not hate everyone who is not a Christian but still rcognizes Islam is a shitty religion and that Muhammed was a pedophile warmonger.

I'm part of that last group. 😉

Anyone who is opposed to an ideology as hateful as Islam and its followers, is not a bad person.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
And then there is a third group who is not actually afraid of Islam or muslims and does not hate everyone who is not a Christian but still rcognizes Islam is a shitty religion and that Muhammed was a pedophile warmonger.

I'm part of that last group. 😉

All the Muslims I've personally known have been wonderful people.

But I have 2 different stories that aren't great.

This one Gold's gym in OKC is right next to many medical centers and two universities. Tons of Muslims and Indians worked out there. There was this one Muslim husband who was absolutely terrible to his wife at the gym. The stereotype exists for a reason. He humiliated her because she asked if she could get a new phone. Her's cracked because she dropped it. Worst part about that situation was, she didn't react much but she got sadder and sadder as he kept yelling at her, calling her stupid, entitled, etc.

The Muslim dude I was working out next to (unrelated to the couple), who I knew pretty well because all of us worked out at the same time, told me not to interfere that this was normal and expected: the husband is supposed to "teach" the wife and discipline her. So I let it go and didn't tell him to stop treating her like garbage. He didn't hit her and eventually shutup about the phone and it's none of my business, really.

Second negative experience I've had was a flight back from Canada, sat next to a young and absurdly beautiful Muslim girl. She was 24, married. She talked about her family, husband, husband's family. We just chatted about life - it was a long ass flight over 5 hours. When I asked her how married life has been, she said it was okay but sometimes they fight. I told her that's normal and you'll work it out if both are willing. Bla bla, talked more about family, came back around to her marriage, and she talked about how he hits her if she says what he doesn't like or does what she doesn't like. I said that's not okay and not normal. She said it is in her country that her father still hit her if she did or said something he didn't like. She was 24. Married. Worst part was, the husband was a jobless bum and she worked.

Felt sorry for her.

Other than that, every single other Muslim I've known has been awesome. Very good people. Very kind.

Yeah, of course I'm not saying that all muslims are bad people. I'm sure there really are many kind ones. I'm sure there are many "kind" Satanists and Luciferians as well lol...

You make a good point @ethneo, people who choose to follow a hateful, and dangerous ideology is troublesome to say the least.

on paper, both Old Testament and Quran spread similarly evil, vile, violent and cruel stuff, but difference is Judaism and Christianity today area very nice and benign religion with lots of dignity, despite half/all of their holy texts promoting weirdest shit ever; islam just isn't; islam just sucks as a religion

now, it doesn't mean muslims are bad; their religion sucks, they dont have to lol

Originally posted by gold slorg
on paper, both Old Testament and Quran spread similarly evil, vile, violent and cruel stuff, but difference is Judaism and Christianity today area very nice and benign religion with lots of dignity, despite half/all of their holy texts promoting weirdest shit ever...

That's your opinion. Other than the story of Job, I see nothing really wrong with the OT. God is just. He never commits actual evil, vile acts.

The thing is, you are not God. You are not the supreme judge of the universe. I doubt God cares what you think of Him or how He handles sinful people; He made you. God has a much higher standard of right and wrong than we as humans do and a much more just and wise way of punishing those who do wrong.

Punishing the wicked is not evil, it's justice.

God is perfect, and only Good. He has no evil in Him at all.

You should've just stuck with the latter half of your post (that I didn't quote) instead of lumping the OT in with the Koran (or Quran, or however you're supposed to spell it).

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Other than the story of Job, I see nothing really wrong with the OT.

From my pov, yes, what happened to Job was f'ed-up but yes, you're right, I'm not God and as such I have no right to judge the One who made me.

I'll probably never understand why God allowed Satan to do all of those horrible things to Job and his family.

I mean the Bible actually says it was because God was basically testing Job to see if he would remain true to Him but in the process Job's family was killed.

God can be kind of an *******. Makes sense since we’re supposed to be in his image.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Yeah, of course I'm not saying that all muslims are bad people. I'm sure there really are many kind ones. I'm sure there are many "kind" Satanists and Luciferians as well lol...

Every single Satanist I've known has been amazing. Not a single one actually believes in Satan, though. They are atheists.

I attended one of their Winter Solstice Parties a few years back. They made a huge bonfire, drank craft beers (that they brewed), grilled food, and had a good laugh at/with me because I was the only theist and a Mormon at their shindig.

Originally posted by wxyz
Islamophobia is a term made up by the Left to shut down any and all criticisms on Islam and Muslims.

Made up by lobbyists, actually.

It's not hard to do. An Italian Mafia boss was well on its way to making "Italianphobia" a thing, to divert accusations that Italians are mobsters, until the old leaders whacked him for calling attention to the existence of a mob.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
I'm sure there are many "kind" Satanists and Luciferians as well lol...

Depending on the type of satanist you mean there absolutely are those that are kind.

Luciferians do not see Lucifer as evil.

Yeah, I know. Lucifer is the illuminating light and the path to true knowledge to them. They basically think of him as God.

You know that all-seeing eye at the top of the pyramid on the dollar bill? Yup, that's Lucifer.

Luciferians tend to be Masonists.