Originally posted by riv6672
Is there a scan of the MB doing that?
If so, just shoot this thread in the head! 😂
Searching now. Orion has had some good fights against Superman. He's a better fighter than Billy, has a more powerful energy projection, and can heal, turn intangible via the MB. Along with a lot of other tricks. It's a solid win for Orion, IMO.
Originally posted by Golgo13
The MB can revert SHAZAM back to a boy. Forgot what issue, but Orion with the MB is a lot more versatile than Billy.
Are u sure, I know he used the MB to access Shazam's power when he couldnt. That doesnt automatically transfer to say he could be transformed back by it though. Also would Orion even know he has that capability?
I agree Orion takes it, just not that way.
surprised by this. i'd say it's pretty damn close to a split in the predcnu days. less sure about current versions. i'd give cm maybe a 5.5/10 majority. as bad as the astro-force can be for cm, the lightning would be at least as bad for orion. if he starts charging his punches he's stronger, faster and i'd give him the edge in durability though it's pretty slight.
Originally posted by leonidas
surprised by this. i'd say it's pretty damn close to a split in the predcnu days. less sure about current versions. i'd give cm maybe a 5.5/10 majority. as bad as the astro-force can be for cm, the lightning would be at least as bad for orion. if he starts charging his punches he's stronger, faster and i'd give him the edge in durability though it's pretty slight.
Lightning charged punches are only from the animated universe DCU line not canon for standard DCU as far as I recall. Titles like "Billy Batson and the Magic of Shazam" and "Shazam and the Monster Society of Evil".
In DCU proper (pre Nu52) the only way he can use the lightning as a weapon is to say Shazam and out move the lightning. This would depend on his adversary being at the point the lightning was going to strike. NU52, I have no clue.
Also not so Sure on the Durability front. In stamina and endurance abso freaking lutely Billy has the edge (pretty much how he always gets the best of BA who is superior in strength and durability). Orion has after all tanked things that cause serious damage to most new god's.
Originally posted by beatboks
Lightning charged punches are only from the animated universe DCU line not canon for standard DCU as far as I recall. Titles like "Billy Batson and the Magic of Shazam" and "Shazam and the Monster Society of Evil".In DCU proper (pre Nu52) the only way he can use the lightning as a weapon is to say Shazam and out move the lightning. This would depend on his adversary being at the point the lightning was going to strike. NU52, I have no clue.
Also not so Sure on the Durability front. In stamina and endurance abso freaking lutely Billy has the edge (pretty much how he always gets the best of BA who is superior in strength and durability). Orion has after all tanked things that cause serious damage to most new god's.
Cap/Adam are absolutely equal in every aspect to the point they can turn each other in human by tricking them into the path of lightning of other. The sheer notion of Adam being stronger than Cap is absurd.