3 Cin Dralligs vs Atton Rand, Canderous, and HK-47
The three Cins are meditating in one of the big Jedi Temple training rooms. The KOTOR crew is out for blood and launches an all-out assault on the Drallig trio.
This is Atton Rand during his days as a Jedi hunter under Revan/Malak's empire. Canderous circa his days as an enforcer on Taris. HK-47 during his time with Darth Revan, assassination protocols set to kill the Dralligs.
Who comes out on top?
Originally posted by Lord Stark
😆 Cin Drallig can take Grievous HK gets wrecked, as do Atton and Canderous.
Cin is nowhere near Mandalore the Ultimate, who is the only person HK-47's assassination protocol failed against IIRC.
Canderous will become Mandalore later on, but I picked the Taris version as he's younger and probably a better fighter at that point.
Atton was a Jedi Hunter, who by definition are "beings who are particularly adept at killing Jedi." Atton was part of the effort to convert Jedi to the side of the Sith, so he probably had loads of experience taking down force users. He also states in convos that dealing with Jedi was actually pretty easy (for someone like him, a force sensitive trained to take down Jedi, it probably was).
Oh and HK was a Jedi Hunter as well: "Answer: Select grenades, sonic screamers, cluster rockets, and plasma charges. Mines are also effective, as many Jedi will run to meet you in hand to hand combat. Silly Jedi."
So team might lose, but they're definitely taking a Drallig or two down with them 😎
Originally posted by Nephthys
Drallig can't ****ing take Grievous, lol.
Originally posted by |King Joker|
Grievous would rip Drallig's ******* apart.
Except Drallig is stated to be capable of just that by the man who made Grievous. His feat against Vader may be lame, but the man is Battlemaster of the Jedi Order, a master of the Seven Forms, and held in high regard by Darth Tyranus. He mops the floor with these three.
Originally posted by Hero of Python
Cin is nowhere near Mandalore the Ultimate,
Uh, good luck proving that.
Canderous will become Mandalore later on, but I picked the Taris version as he's younger and probably a better fighter at that point.
Much better equipped as the Preserver, though.
Also, Atton Rand being competition for a Jedi Battlemaster of any sort is laughable.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Uh, good luck proving that.Much better equipped as the Preserver, though.
Also, Atton Rand being competition for a Jedi Battlemaster of any sort is laughable.
Sure, but Canderous mentions to the Exile several times that he's not the warrior he used to be due to age.
To your first point, it's just deduction. HK-47 (who was stopped by Mandalore) killed countless Jedi, and it's likely one of them was on Cin's level. If not, that's still a better feat than anything Cin did, as he died in his first fight against a Jedi.
We know that Mandalore the Ultimate was somewhere between Jedi Malak and Revan, which is pretty damn impressive. Cin might be there too, but then again, "Battlemaster" is a title and it doesn't necessarily mean he's as good as any other Jedi at actual fighting.
When did HK ever kill any Jedi? Before you bring up him having knowledge of killing Jedi...ok great, but that doesn't mean he's killed any. He's a droid, they can be programmed with knowledge ya know....unless I've missed something, there isn't any source saying he killed countless Jedi. He was just used as an assassin droid by Revan.
Now he could have killed Jedi sure, but nothing has been stated as such and if he has, we can't just assume that they were Jedi of high caliber or anything. Besides he didn't face the SWTOR protagonists alone in either fight, he had help in the form of Foundry droids and auto turrets aboard Malgus' space station.
Also Battlemaster is more than just a title, the guys are some of the deadliest individuals in the galaxy with a blade, the most physically dangerous of all the Jedi, so on and so forth.
Also I'm not sure why it's a slight against Cin to him dying against Anakin, who was able to best Dooku via tapping into his rage, which Anakin was during the Temple attack, harassing his rage and being more ruthless with his moves.
From SWTOR:
This HK-series assassin droid achieved infamy just before the Jedi Civil War. Although outwardly resembling a Systech Corporation unit, he was actually built by Darth Revan as a method of silencing political opponents. HK-47 has had many masters besides Revan, as well – corporate figures, crime lords, Hutts and Mandalorians – who have tried to harness his assassination protocols, usually with disastrous results. Three centuries ago, after being found and repaired by the Jedi Exile, HK-47 helped defeat the Sith Triumvirate. After the fighting ended, he was kept in trust by the re-formed Jedi Order, much to his dismay; with the galaxy still in turmoil, the Jedi were concerned that HK-47 would start “helpfully” removing troublesome individuals. Then, during routine maintenance, an engineer accidentally activated an unknown command in HK-47's systems. Soon after, the droid disappeared from Jedi custody and left for deep space. The Jedi's records claim that HK-47 has been destroyed and rebuilt several times since his creation. Darth Malgus’s agents are said to have recently recovered HK-47's components from a mysterious facility built into an asteroid. Now reassembled and upgraded, HK-47 has become one of Darth Malgus's most formidable weapons.
And yes, HK-47 singlehandedly stopped and fought the Imperial Strike Team that was dispatched to assassinate Revan.
I won't be surprised if HK-47 can take down a Cin Dralling or two.
Originally posted by Zenwolf
No HK had help with using the Foundry Droids against the Strike Team, play through the Foundry again and you'll see that.Also that quote doesn't mean anything, yes he helped the Exile defeat the Sith Triumvirate....ok so? So did the other Exile's companions, that's nothing exclusive to HK.
HK-47's involvement is official and his specialization is combat. It is likely that Exile utilized HK-47 and another for combat related purposes.
Originally posted by Lord Stark
Except Drallig is stated to be capable of just that by the man who made Grievous. His feat against Vader may be lame, but the man is Battlemaster of the Jedi Order, a master of the Seven Forms, and held in high regard by Darth Tyranus. He mops the floor with these three.
Pfft, it's been decade/s since Dooku even met Drallig, he doesn't know how good he is at the time. Drallig is old and who knows how good he is against non-duelists.
Originally posted by Zenwolf
When did HK ever kill any Jedi? Before you bring up him having knowledge of killing Jedi...ok great, but that doesn't mean he's killed any. He's a droid, they can be programmed with knowledge ya know....unless I've missed something, there isn't any source saying he killed countless Jedi. He was just used as an assassin droid by Revan.Now he could have killed Jedi sure, but nothing has been stated as such and if he has, we can't just assume that they were Jedi of high caliber or anything. Besides he didn't face the SWTOR protagonists alone in either fight, he had help in the form of Foundry droids and auto turrets aboard Malgus' space station.
Also Battlemaster is more than just a title, the guys are some of the deadliest individuals in the galaxy with a blade, the most physically dangerous of all the Jedi, so on and so forth.
Also I'm not sure why it's a slight against Cin to him dying against Anakin, who was able to best Dooku via tapping into his rage, which Anakin was during the Temple attack, harassing his rage and being more ruthless with his moves.
An earlier HK model defeated/was a great fight for Jarael in the comics. And she was an incredibly talented fighter who could match MandoWars Malak. HK is far better than the other models.
Cin Drallig held off an enraged Darth Vader and his Clones throughout a decent length of the temple. Meaning that for at least a good five or six minutes he held off a better version of the Jedi that killed Dooku in far less time.
Cin Drallig is also put over Shaak Ti as a swordsman in the Revenge of the Sith novel, a character much more skilled than Atton Rand or Canderous for certain. HK-47 will be a problem but he isn't carrying this.
Cin is no average Jedi, as should be common sense.