Which Heralds Can Defeat Thor For The Majority?

Started by carver93 pages

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Don't think he can teleport. He forcefully goes where he wants.

Originally posted by carver9
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Don't think he can teleport. He forcefully goes where he wants.

But the problem is..you are saying it wouldn't work because of a scan, of a thing that happened. That is leaps and bounds better then saying it won't work because Thor fights like a moron in comics and is too stupid to not want to get beat to death or to figure out how he could easily use his powers to stay out of harms way.

We aren't even talking about having to use his powers in a massively unique and creative way here.

Originally posted by Surtur
Uh the problem is, you act like debating off powersets is some horrible thing. If the alternative is saying Hulk can beat Thor then I'm sorry pal, the powerset debating is by FAR the lesser of two evils here. It is by no means perfect, but if it prevents people from uttering nonsense like "Hulk could beat a competent Thor" then..yeah, it's worth it.

Likewise, if you're saying these things would be out of character for Thor. Okay, but then that doesn't tell me much about how powerful and skilled Hulk is. All it tells me is that Hulk can beat a version of Thor whose had half his brain removed and who lacks any semblance of common sense. To which I am in agreement with you: Thor fighting stupid loses to Hulk 10 times out of 10. Hell he loses to Hulk 11 times out of 10 if he's fighting stupid.

Lol...if we debate off powerset, then it would be nearly impossible to stop any of these characters and that's including Hulk but if you mix on panel showings, that makes things interesting. You have bricks like Hulk, Doomsday, Titus, Konvikt, The General, who has outright humiliated Heralds. Am I'm suppose to ignore this because they are punchers? No. Just like I'm not going to ignore the way Thor, Wonder Woman, Black Adam or whoever else fights. So again I ask, if Thor is fighting like you say he is fighting, why not start the fight against Wonder Woman, Black Adam, Captain Marvel, and Superman with a dimensional dump? Wouldn't that be the smart thing to do? Hell, he could probably solo the 4 of them using that tactic, don't you think?

Originally posted by Surtur
But the problem is..you are saying it wouldn't work because of a scan, of a thing that happened. That is leaps and bounds better then saying it won't work because Thor fights like a moron in comics and is too stupid to not want to get beat to death or to figure out how he could easily use his powers to stay out of harms way.

We aren't even talking about having to use his powers in a massively unique and creative way here.

Thor isn't dimension dumping anyone. He is fighting in character. Surfer isn't beating Superman 10/10. It's debatable if Surfer could pull a majority here but let me tell you why, because we debate with them fighting in character. My scan wasn't to prove Hulk could surpass dimension dump because if Thor wants to bfr him, it is going to happen.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
BM was tailor made to beat Anti Man and that tactic won't work against Thor. He flash koed Sentry, Thor has done the same.

When has Thor flash KO'd The Sentry?

I can't remember this happening.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
When has Thor flash KO'd The Sentry?

I can't remember this happening.

I don't recall this happening myself either.

Silver Surfer would be the one to pull a majority on Superman.

Silver Surfer vs Thor is a closer fight due to versatility on both sides. Edge to SS

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
I don't recall this happening myself either.

The Blonde whore has never performed well against The Sentry. Even during SIEGE it is clear that Bob allowed him to kill him.

Superman solidly for DC
For marvel i gotta say strange everyone else is a toss up

Originally posted by carver9
Because Hulk has consistently been shown he can pull wins against Thor. This isn't hard to grasp if you've read and seen their showings.

https://heroclixstrategist.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/avengers-3b-e1394084075164.jpg

Remind me, what happened in the panels AFTER this???

That's right, Hulk and Thor couldn't even move Thor's hand, or pry is fingers open.

how about this one
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/100813/2697534-DEF10_HulkVsThor2.JPG

Do I really need to pull the old Avengers issue where Hulk AND Herc together couldn't move Thor's arm in an arm wrestling match ??

Consistently my @___

Originally posted by beatboks
https://heroclixstrategist.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/avengers-3b-e1394084075164.jpg

Remind me, what happened in the panels AFTER this???

That's right, Hulk and Thor couldn't even move Thor's hand, or pry is fingers open.

how about this one
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/100813/2697534-DEF10_HulkVsThor2.JPG

Do I really need to pull the old Avengers issue where Hulk AND Herc together couldn't move Thor's arm in an arm wrestling match ??

Consistently my @___


Lol those scans are from 50 years ago and pretty much irrelevant now. Both characters have changed significantly since then.

Originally posted by beatboks
https://heroclixstrategist.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/avengers-3b-e1394084075164.jpg

Remind me, what happened in the panels AFTER this???

That's right, Hulk and Thor couldn't even move Thor's hand, or pry is fingers open.

how about this one
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/100813/2697534-DEF10_HulkVsThor2.JPG

Do I really need to pull the old Avengers issue where Hulk AND Herc together couldn't move Thor's arm in an arm wrestling match ??

Consistently my @___

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Re: Which Heralds Can Defeat Thor For The Majority?

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Which heralds can defeat The Odinson(With Mjolnir) for the Majority?

DCNU

1)Superman Yes (speed)
2)Wonder Woman Yes (speed and lasso)
3)Orion No
4)Captain Marvel No (I'm not sure how fast he is)
5)Majestic Yes (speed)
6)Apollo No
7)Green Lantern Hal No
8)Martian Manhunter Yes
9)Black Adam No (same as Captain Marvel)
10)Superboy Yes

Marvel

1)Black Bolt No (unless he begins screaming)
2)Blue Marvel No
3)Dr. Strange Yes
4)Gladiator Yes (speed)
5)Hulk No
6)Hyperion No (I'm not sure how quick he is)
7)Silver Surfer Yes
8)Wonder Man No

All of them.

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