Converging Thoughts

Started by HueyFreeman5 pages

Its pretty awful. Even by bad event standards its bad.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
The comic series or the movie?
I'll let you think long and hard about that one.

The way Convergence sloppily tried to tie together all major events was laughable(in an "embarrassed-to-be-a-fan-of-the-company" sort of way)--as was the knee-jerk retcon of COIE. This was, imo, the worst event DC has ever produced... Arguably the worst from any company.

Golgo should be ashamed of himself. 👆

Nah, Bloodlines is still the worst event ever. This came close though.

Originally posted by Golgo13
It's a two month throw away event. Just so they can produce some books for both months. DC got a 7% increase because of it. Some of the books were ok, actually. I don't even think it's THAT bad.

😂

One of the greatest stories in comics thrown in trash off panel. **** you didio.

If they retcon of COIE which also retcon every reboot they had even maybe all other retcons then how everything is still looking post-flashpoint?.....So confusing damnit.

DC has finally broke there own continuity into pieces. To the point there wasn't a continuity anymore.

It's time travel. They created an alternate multiverse where CoIE didn't happen.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nah, Bloodlines is still the worst event ever. This came close though.

I say even Bloodlines doesn't top Amazon's Attack.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Yeah, I agree. The Wetworks felt very unfamiliar. And the whole crossover with Batman was awful. However, there are some gems in the mix, I thought. Like any crossover, you're going to have some good and some bad.

Kinda a shotgun approach. Rucka's books were good.

Originally posted by Galan007
The way Convergence sloppily tried to tie together all major events was laughable(in an "embarrassed-to-be-a-fan-of-the-company" sort of way)--as was the knee-jerk retcon of COIE. This was, imo, the worst event DC has ever produced... Arguably the worst from any company.

Golgo should be ashamed of himself. 👆

👆

It shows he isn't a fan of dc history and doesn't care what they release. As long as the dc logo is there golgo will love it.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nah, Bloodlines is still the worst event ever. This came close though.

Amazon Attacks was much worse. MUCH WORSE.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Amazon Attacks was much worse. MUCH WORSE.
Maybe it was a filler event. Hurry up and check the sales numbers for those months.

Originally posted by ares834
It's time travel. They created an alternate multiverse where CoIE didn't happen.

So what does that mean going forward? No COIE? Or two realities, one that has it and one that doesn't?

Originally posted by ares834
It's time travel. They created an alternate multiverse where CoIE didn't happen.

It doesn't work like that in DC.

That's Marvel logic mate 👆

Originally posted by ares834
It's time travel. They created an alternate multiverse where CoIE didn't happen.
An alternate multiverse? Where are you getting that from? There was only one COIE. Undoing the crescendo of its events *shouldn't* have created a divergent multiverse or w/e, it should have adjusted 'mainstream' time/space accordingly...

That's why these pages display the original/pre-crisis iterations of various characters/earths faded in the background, and their current/resurrected iterations displayed in the foreground:
http://i.imgur.com/dWKj6pr.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UtcFO6n.jpg

It's meant to show us that the multiverse has evolved/changed over time... Which makes sense, because it has *technically* always existed now. King/Lobdell also used this plot-point as a segway to maintain the canonicity of Multiversity--ergo several of Morrison's characters/earths being featured as the current versions.

That's how I interpreted it, at least. /shrug

Originally posted by Golgo13
Amazon Attacks was much worse. MUCH WORSE.
No it wasn't. NO IT WASN'T.

Originally posted by krisblaze
It doesn't work like that in DC.

That's Marvel logic mate 👆

To be fair, it sometimes works like that in DC. Like the Supergirl story where Linda went back to take Kara's place in the Crisis, but accidentally created a divergent timeline and thus was unable to.

quanchi112

Maybe it was a filler event. Hurry up and check the sales numbers for those months.

Funny thing: DC thought Amazon's Attack would be big, while the simultaneous Sinestro Corps War would be a minor deal.

Bloodlines is before Comichron tracks, but Amazon attack started at 55k, and ended at a paltry 39k.

Sales-wise it's probably the worse big crossover event, but even aside from that, the quality was just atrocious.

Originally posted by ares834
It's time travel. They created an alternate multiverse where CoIE didn't happen.

They didn't create anything. The multiverse was "reset."

"... my body lost to the cancerous growths caused by the exposure to the multiverse. I wish to return to what I was. Help... .... me."

"It's the only way to reset the multiverse."

"The first crisis. It's too strong. If it is not changed the multiverse will once again collapse into one universe."

"I will send you back to the first crisis. You must prevent the collapse of the multiverse. Then everything will reset and return to what it was before I brought you all here."

Originally posted by Astner
They didn't create anything. The multiverse was "reset."

"... my body lost to the cancerous growths caused by the exposure to the multiverse. I wish to return to what I was. Help... .... me."

"It's the only way to reset the multiverse."

"The first crisis. It's too strong. If it is not changed the multiverse will once again collapse into one universe."

"I will send you back to the first crisis. You must prevent the collapse of the multiverse. Then everything will reset and return to what it was before I brought you all here."

And none of this contradicts what I’ve said. By preventing CoIE they effectively created (or reset if you prefer) the rest of the multiverse. The 52 universes seem to have remained unchanged from what they became after Flashpoint. Beyond that, as Galan mentioned, the Darkseid War references all the past crises including CoIE. So Mobius and Metatron still remember the Crisis happening the way it happened in the comic.

Originally posted by Astner
"I will send you back to the first crisis. You must prevent the collapse of the multiverse. Then everything will reset and return to what it was before I brought you all here."

"I will send you off-panel. You will completely f*** up the entire DC multiverse. Then this entire horrible 'event' will be over and maybe everything can go back to the way it was before I started this whole mess."